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re: Is this Richt's Last Year?

Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:05 pm to
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You know he's been put in his place a million times now. He even sees how dumb he's being. He is just doing it now to get a rise outta people. Just RA the thread and let's move on

I haven't read the whole thread, just latched on at the end
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:05 pm to
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And whose would those be? Notice no big college programs have replaced their HCs with Assts.


Jimbo Fisher?
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:06 pm to
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Jimbo Fisher?


In the SEC.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50645 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:06 pm to
Oh please tell me who is better then Richt that we can get

Richt can get us a natty he just hasn't had the luck of Saban or Miles
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:17 pm to
Actually, come to think of it, I do have a specific name in mind: David Cutcliffe

He's won at Duke and has SEC experience. He'd be on my list of potential candidates.

I'm sorry if I've shocked some of you by expressing my opinion that we can do better than Mark Richt. Seriously, I hope we can continue to be friends God bless.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:22 pm to
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I do have a specific name in mind: David Cutcliffe

He's won at Duke and has SEC experience.


He will never leave Duke. He has full control there and is at the age where he is enjoying coaching, not leaving for other jobs.

Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:23 pm to
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He will never leave Duke. He has full control there and is at the age where he is enjoying coaching, not leaving for other jobs


Yea, he's 59. nevermind. I did like him when he was at Tennessee. Just didn't realize he was old.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26544 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:24 pm to
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Actually, come to think of it, I do have a specific name in mind: David Cutcliffe

He's old and wouldn't leave, plus he already failed at Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 10:43 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50645 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:24 pm to
You act as if Richt is a bad coach
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:25 pm to
Cutcliffe is a great coach and Ole Miss made a mistake firing him.
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:44 pm to
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He's old and wouldn't leave, plus he already failed at Ole Miss. We get it, you would literally replace Richt with anyone. That's irrational, but it's your opinion.


Replacing Richt with anyone off the street would be irrational, yes.

As I've stated several times already, this isn't really rocket science. You put together a selection committee. You accept resumes from various assistant and head coaches across the county. You interview said coaches. You select the best candidate. This is really no different form the hiring process of any other profit or non-profit entity. You hire the best person for the job.

As someone else mentioned, Mark Richt could find himself in a mack brown type situation very soon if he doesn't start performing against ranked opponents. If he strikes out on Pruitt, then
the hot seat will become even hotter.

Questioning things is good for your health. Doubt is good. If you are so blinded by your love of mark richt that you find it inconceivable that someone else wants him replaced, then you need to learn to be a little more inquisitive.

Now if someone here wants to tell me why they think Mark Richt is a good coach, then maybe we can have an actual debate.

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26544 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:50 pm to
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Questioning things is good for your health. Doubt is good. If you are so blinded by your love of mark richt that you find it inconceivable that someone else wants him replaced, then you need to learn to be a little more inquisitive.


I don't think it's inconceivable for someone to want him replaced. I have some doubts about him myself and have at times hopped on the Fire Richt train, but now I'm of the mind that we shouldn't fire him until we have have a damn good idea who the replacement would be and that that replacement would be an upgrade. There are no sure things, but the replacement would need to be as close as we could get to that. A suitable replacement would cost a lot more than $3.5M, just looking at the market rate.
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Now if someone here wants to tell me why they think Mark Richt is a good coach, then maybe we can have an actual debate.

I think he's a good coach. I don't think he's an elite coach, but there are only 3-4 of those in the college game. I think we can win big with Richt. We've come damn close before.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 10:52 pm
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:59 pm to
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As I've stated several times already, this isn't really rocket science. You put together a selection committee. You accept resumes from various assistant and head coaches across the county. You interview said coaches. You select the best candidate. This is really no different form the hiring process of any other profit or non-profit entity. You hire the best person for the job.


You have yet to bring up one single quality candidate.

Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 11:02 pm to
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I don't think it's inconceivable for someone to want him replaced. I have some doubts about him myself and have at times hopped on the Fire Richt train, but now I'm of the mind that we shouldn't fire him until we have have a damn good idea who the replacement would be and that that replacement would be an upgrade. There are no sure things, but the replacement would need to be as close as we could get to that. A suitable replacement would cost a lot more than $3.5M, just looking at the market rate.


Fair enough.

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I think he's a good coach. I don't think he's an elite coach, but there's only 3-4 of those in the college game. I think we can win big with Richt. We've come damn close before.


I think it will come down to Pruitt. If we continue to suck on D against the quality opponents, then the excitement generated by the Pruitt hiring will quickly fade away and the focus will turn right back to mark richt. I honestly believe Pruitt will be his last chance.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 11:08 pm
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 11:16 pm to
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You have yet to bring up one single quality candidate.


I'm 100% certain that UGA would be able to interview quality candidates when the time comes. I'm also 100% certain that these candidates would include a mixture of head coaches, former head coaches, and assistant coaches.

So if you accept the premise that there is a hefty supply of qualified coaches available, why is the question always "who would you replace him with?" Shouldn't it be: "Is my employee peforming up to my standards?"
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 11:20 pm to
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why is the question always "who would you replace him with?


Because we can't come up with who to replace him with.

A B+ is better than a D.
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 11:51 pm to
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Because we can't come up with who to replace him with. A B+ is better than a D.



We obviously wont know if we've made a bad move until a move is made. So that's not why I'm giving you specific names. Would Pat Narduzzi (or some other highly regarded coordinator) give us a better chance to win? Idk. But I'm comfortable with taking risks in trying to obtain a better outcome than a B+.

To me, Pruitt has to be Richt's savior. We cannot keep committing ourselves to shitty coordinators. If Pruitt's D doesn't show up against rank teams, then Richt is done.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24444 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:42 am to
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We cannot keep committing ourselves to shitty coordinators


And 3 years ago, I guarantee you were on the fire Bobo bandwagon. He now leads one of the top offenses in the country...

We play in the toughest conference in football. We play Auburn as our permanent, which is a top 3 team from the West. We always play a BCS conference team OOC (GA TECH) and 9times outta 10, we play another BCS conference team.

Only 1 team wins it all. We have had 3 awesome chances in the years Richt has been here to make it to the big game (02, 07, 12). We have also been a game or two away many more times than that.

I am satisfied and think a couple unlucky things go our way instead of the opponents and we would have a crystal ball.
Posted by adawgj
Brunswick
Member since Oct 2012
1749 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:11 am to
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Richt can get us a natty he just hasn't had the skill of Saban or Miles


FIFY
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:25 pm to
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Would Pat Narduzzi (or some other highly regarded coordinator) give us a better chance to win? Idk.


So you want to replace a highly regarded Coach who is the second best in school history with a DC who has never had a HC job and never worked in the south?

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I'm comfortable with taking risks in trying to obtain a better outcome than a B+.

That's how you end up with Kiffin and Dooley. Ask our friends to the north about that.

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We cannot keep committing ourselves to shitty coordinators.

and we haven't.
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