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re: Gunner INT v Texas

Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:16 am to
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:16 am to
I agree with Djs on those and I think we can see who is on the spectrum based on a series of posts on this page.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:43 am to
Then you ignore facts. Their is a huge difference between knowing their is great risk and taking it anyway versus thinking you are doing the right thing and mitigating risk by throwing the ball away and it not working out.

Every QB who has played this game Tom Brady on down has had a throw away intercepted...... They have long careers compared to the QBs who time after time take to much risk throwing into coverage.


Sounds to me like you are the beginning of the Stockton haters, so you are now the beginning of the new Kunt Nation yourself by over analyzing the kid like the assholes did Stet.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 8:47 am
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:52 am to
I wasn’t talking about you and I don’t hate players for their field play.

It was a very bad play at the worst time possible. I don’t see how you can equate that to a curl route getting jumped, but we can agree to disagree.
I am far from someone who dislikes Gunner. I think he has a lot of potential. I don’t think he will outomatically be our savior because he is dual threat and could throw down field in high school.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:57 am to
Cool, my point is it is one data point for Stockton compared to many from Beck.

People who point to that play are blowing it out of proportion. Once he saw he wasn't going to be able to throw he should have taken the sack but multiple people missed their blocking assignment to lead up to it.

He may or may not be our savior, but the offense moved with him under center so there is hope. I am also sure there are boneheaded plays, but I am hoping a replenished RB room lets us run the ball more
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:22 am to
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Cool, my point is it is one data point for Stockton compared to many from Beck.


Well, that’s a point no one was arguing against. It’s not what we have been discussing.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:25 am to
Beck has a lot more experience and has proven to be a good QB and can run the offense . No, he isn’t perfect, but going into a playoff, most sane people would want him vs an unknown. That does not mean that Gunner can’t handle it. It doesn’t mean he can’t win it for us. It means there isn’t a body of evidence yet. He appears to be a leader and tough, which are valuable intangibles. All we can do is hope this long break between games will have him ready for the challenge with a good plan in place.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:47 am to
He has also proven to be erratic....
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:53 am to
I think that is an emotional bias, but you are free to your opinion.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:59 am to
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multiple people missed their blocking assignment to lead up to it.



6 guys rushing against 5 OL. The QB needs to recognize that, and get the pass off quickly to an open UGA player such a Smith, Lucky, or Cash. That's what they are taught to do, but seeing stuff like that often comes with experience, which he lacks.

Instead, he did the absolute worst thing he could do, which is throw it directly to a Texas player, who was hanging out all by himself 20+ yards downfield. That's not blown out of proportion. Its literally what happened.

Unless you have a handy quote, you don't know for sure he was trying to throw it away, but if he did throw it away successfully, then its likely intentional grounding, as there was no UGA player in the area and he was still inside the tackle box.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 10:53 am to
Nobody was getting a safe pass off there. He should have just went down and taken the sack as close to the LOS as possible to allow clock to run and a potential fg or at worse a punt.

You are being hyper critical.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40114 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 10:56 am to
I disagree. Quick recognition gets a pass off there. You are downplaying how bad the pass was for some reason.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16320 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:02 pm to
The point is, we are agreeing to disagree. Beck got a safety earlier in the year vs Bama for the same thing.... He is the more experienced player.
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Bryce Young got the benefit of many, many calls from the officials during his time at Alabama. He could be down before the ball left his hand, they'd call it incomplete. He could be in the grasp of three defenders, they'd call it incomplete. He could fumble, they'd call it incomplete. It could be grounding, they'd call it incomplete. Get hit after the pass, they'd call it roughing. Stetson did not routinely get calls like that


They’d
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14018 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:10 pm to
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The point is, we are agreeing to disagree. Beck got a safety earlier in the year vs Bama for the same thing.... He is the more experienced player.


Same thing? Beck threw it over our receiver and defender and the receiver stopped his route on the release. If he keeps running it is not PI. In fact, it was a bad call. Equating that to throwing it directly to the defender with 3 minutes left in the SEC championship up 3 has the signs of Beck Derangement Syndrome.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40114 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Every QB who has played this game Tom Brady on down has had a throw away intercepted


You accuse others of ignoring facts, and then you post this nonsense that isn’t close to factual.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16320 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:24 pm to
According to you, he had time to dump it before heavibg it....
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40114 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:28 pm to
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According to you, he had time to dump it before heavibg it....


My post you are responding to was about you making the idiotic claim that every QB makes a terrible throwaway INT like Gunner did.

Try to defend that and then we can anaylyze if he could have thrown it towards any of the 3 players I mentioned.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16320 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:35 pm to
Wrong, here is one of many horrible INTS thrown by Tom Brady, The Goat Brady overwhelmed makes horrible decision
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40114 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:44 pm to
Wrong about what?

You posted one pass from 2004 that shows Brady trying to pass towards a Patriot TE.

The point is not every QB makes a terrible throw away pass like Gunner did like you claim. It's not a common mistake. You were wrong about it. Just man up and own it, or don't.

I am more interested in you explaining why Gunner couldn't pass it to any of the 3 guys I named.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16320 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:01 pm to
God, I hope someone hyper judges you on everything you do, like real bitchy mother in law who points out every mistake you make and blows it out of proportion.

The worst 2 Ints in the Texas game were the back to back free plays, second one Beck didn't even try. Not all those turn out to be free, sometimes there is a procedure penalty.

You morons did this to Bennett as well.
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