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Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:38 pm to JacketFan77
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JacketFan77
I just now saw this. Sorry for the late reply. I actually contacted the Mountain People inquiring on your whereabouts a while back. They assured me everything was fine, but you never know when you are dealing with Mountain People.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:02 pm to wdhalgren
Brent Key is 5-3 bs ranked opponeneths.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:04 pm to deeprig9
JF77 is the mountain man’s mountain man. He kilt him a bar when he was only 3.
King of the Wild frontier.
King of the Wild frontier.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:10 pm to Rules
When dealing with mountain people, they can say everything is fine while the guy is passed out behind his trailer with maggots crawling in and out of his mouth, and yellow jackets in and out of his anal crevice. I was worried.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:16 pm to Rules
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Brent Key is 5-3 bs ranked opponeneths.
"bs" is the only accurate part of that statement. I don't know how you came up with those numbers, but season final (or current if the season is in progress) ranking is the only useful metric for looking at outcomes vs ranked opponents. Dated valuations are worthless when you have more recent info. If you don't understand that, I have some stock I'd like to sell you at last week's price.
I use AP rankings and Brent Key's record is 1 win & 7 losses.
GT 2023 record
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vs. Ranked (AP) 0-4
GT 2024 Record
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vs. Ranked (AP) 1-3
GT 2025 record
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vs. Ranked (AP) 0-0
This post was edited on 9/17/25 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:53 am to wdhalgren
End of season ranking is lame imo
People used that against us and it just doesn't make sense. Like if you had one less loss (aka if we lost to you instead of beat you) maybe you are ranked instead of unranked.
Tech for example beats Clemson when they were ranked. The loss knocks Clemson out of the Top 25, but if Clemson wins they are still in obviously.
There are cases of over hyped preseason teams that end up sucking but I think ranking at time of game time is more accurate.
People used that against us and it just doesn't make sense. Like if you had one less loss (aka if we lost to you instead of beat you) maybe you are ranked instead of unranked.
Tech for example beats Clemson when they were ranked. The loss knocks Clemson out of the Top 25, but if Clemson wins they are still in obviously.
There are cases of over hyped preseason teams that end up sucking but I think ranking at time of game time is more accurate.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:12 am to BillysIsland
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End of season ranking is lame imo
lol it's the only ranking that actaully matters.
Imagine giving credit to, let's saaaaaay, alabama for instance for beating FSU to open the 2017 season. FSU was ranked 3rd adn actually got a handful of #1 votes. Bama beat them soundly. Elite win, right? Well...until you consider that FSU finsihed one game over .500 and 3-5 in the putrid ACC. But yeah other than that, elite!
Using ranking at game time, ESPECIALLY early in the season, is an utterly illogical way to go about things. How good a team actaully was is most accurately represented by their final ranking, not where they were in like week 4.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:29 am to WG_Dawg
See my last sentence. Many such cases.
I would argue there are just as many if not more cases, of an unranked team at 8-4 that was ranked at the time of the game and would still be ranked had the team in question (UGA, GT l, whoever) not beat them.
I would argue there are just as many if not more cases, of an unranked team at 8-4 that was ranked at the time of the game and would still be ranked had the team in question (UGA, GT l, whoever) not beat them.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:23 am to BillysIsland
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End of season ranking is lame imo. People used that against us and it just doesn't make sense. Like if you had one less loss (aka if we lost to you instead of beat you) maybe you are ranked instead of unranked.
I'm not sure you understand what gametime rankings are. The purpose is to roughly classify teams using incomplete data, with updates as more data becomes available. It's basically aimed at fan engagement and media consumption. As the season progresses, more game data yields more meaningful rankings, thus end of season rankings are the most meaningful of all.
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Tech for example beats Clemson when they were ranked. The loss knocks Clemson out of the Top 25, but if Clemson wins they are still in obviously.
Clemson's current ranking is less accurate than it will be at the end of the season (more data), but it reflects all the data available at this time. If they go undefeated from here, they'll probably be ranked again at some point, but that's a hypothetical future. If Syracuse beats Clemson this weekend, that wouldn't count as a win vs ranked team using gametime rankings, but GT would get a win vs a ranked team for beating Clemson last weekend. Another example of why record vs gametime rankings is not very useful; teams move in and out during the season.
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I think ranking at time of game time is more accurate.
You're wrong about that. When working with data and statistics, more data leads to more meaningful estimation of the underlying reality. If ranking at gametime was more accurate than end of season rankings, we could announce the national champion during pre-season and eliminate the playoffs. But we don't. Instead we update the rankings with each new piece of data in order to make them more accurate.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 9:54 am
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:24 am to wdhalgren
I agree with you in principle but the AP poll has become a joke. I don’t know if it’s the best metric.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:40 am to FirstCityDawg
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I agree with you in principle but the AP poll has become a joke. I don’t know if it’s the best metric.
None of these poll based metrics are ideal because voters have bias and use faulty or incomplete analysis. That's a completely separate conversation and doesn't affect this discussion because the source of error is always present.
I used AP because they have week by week rankings at every point in the season, including after the playoffs are done. The only other option is coaches poll and it suffers from the same limitations as AP voting. Computer based models are possibly worse, because they suffer from the bias and error of the designer. The playoff committee doesn't do a top 25 ranking during most of the season nor after the season is completed, so gametime and postseason rankings are not even an option for assessing record vs ranked teams using that one.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 9:04 am
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:09 am to JacketFan77
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We won the Orange Bowl four years after all of those guys were gone.
cool, but that's not really relevant to the point I was making.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:18 am to WG_Dawg
Faulkner has been an OC at several other schools, all with good results. GT isn’t his first rodeo.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:54 am to New Money
Rusty said his next move will be a HC.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:12 am to FirstCityDawg
Very plausible.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:36 pm to lewis and herschel
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dimwitted knuckle dragging homer.
This is funny to me and I’ll bet you have no idea why.
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