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re: 2018 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.) - Back to that #1 class
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:50 am to djsdawg
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:50 am to djsdawg
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We offered Fields in October and he surprisingly picked PSU in November. Lawrence then picked Clemson in December.
Yes...
We offered Lawrence 7/19/2015 and didn't offer Fields until 11/18/2016, over a year later. We waited way too long to get in the game with Fields. I'm sure with our early offer to Lawrence, Fields felt a little disrespected. (Just a guess, though) Shoot, even Georgia Tech offered Fields before we did.
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:55 am to DawgsLife
In no way did it help us with him.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:17 am to DawgsLife
No one was offering Fields a while back....his top offer was Mercer for a long time. I don't think he felt shafted. I'm sure he understands how recruiting goes
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:22 am to IT_Dawg
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No one was offering Fields a while back....his top offer was Mercer for a long time. I don't think he felt shafted. I'm sure he understands how recruiting goes
Well, lets see...
Teams that offered Fields before we did:
Penn St.
North carolina
NC State
Tenn.
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Duke
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
West Virginia
Iowa State
Navy
Arizona
Missouri
Arizona State
Ole Miss
Louisville
Indiana
Virginia
TCU
Nebraska
South Carolina
Syracuse
Michigan State
They all offered Fields before we did. We are the home state team and we probably make 200+ offers every year, and we didn't offer Fields.
Yes, I think he was not happy about that.
Don't get me wrong....perhaps we were trying to show Lawrence we were all in on him, and felt we would get him. It just didn't work out that way. And, the staff has done a good job of getting back in on his recruitment. However, I cannot imagine our late offer did not hurt us.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 9:18 am to DawgsLife
Your list has the most glaring omissions, all 4 of his finalist. I'm pretty sure Fields isn't concerned with the timing of his offers.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 9:31 am to Glory, Glory
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Your list has the most glaring omissions, all 4 of his finalist. I'm pretty sure Fields isn't concerned with the timing of his offers.
Do you believe we could have locked down Fields if we had offered him a year ago? It's hard to say. Penn State was an early offer and he committed to them. Maybe we could already have him in the fold....or maybe he would have committed to us and then decommitted.
It's difficult to tell.
I was under the impression it was between 3 teams. FSU, Auburn and us....with Auburn a darkhorse.
It's hard to say. Things change. It does seem a little odd that the home state team is so late to the party. I mean, it isn't like we couldn't see him play and evaluate him. Probably the saving grace of the whole thing, in my opinion, is he committed, then decommitted. he started from scratch at that point.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:20 am to DawgsLife
quote:Not really. There were two much more established instate 5 stars we had been after for a long time, Fields didn't really start blowing up until late in his Junior year and at the Rising Seniors game. People on this board would have been calling for Kirby's head on a spike if we were pushing hard for Fields this time last year when Lawrence was still a very real option.
It does seem a little odd that the home state team is so late to the party
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:25 am to DawgsLife
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It's hard to say. Things change. It does seem a little odd that the home state team is so late to the party. I mean, it isn't like we couldn't see him play and evaluate him. Probably the saving grace of the whole thing, in my opinion, is he committed, then decommitted. he started from scratch at that point.
Everyone was late to the party. I mean, Fields didn't really play Varsity until his junior year so unless you loved him at a camp you probably weren't offering him until this most recent season.
Lawrence was winning State Championships as a Soph. so its completely understandable why he was offered first.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:47 am to SumterCoDawg
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Not really. There were two much more established instate 5 stars
Emory Jones is a 4*, but that's a good point.
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People on this board would have been calling for Kirby's head on a spike if we were pushing hard for Fields this time last year when Lawrence was still a very real option.
I doubt that. We push for multiple highly rated players all the time. And, I hope Kirby doesn't offer players based on what message board people think.
I would be willing to bet we had offers out to several 5* running backs at one time.
I don't know. maybe I am reading too much into it...or overthinking it. Kirby has shown that he is a good recruiter, so i am not criticizing him, or don't mean to be. I just thought the timing of it all unusual. maybe Fields was not that interested in Georgia early on and said something to that effect to the coaching staff, so they backed off a bit.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:51 am to Dawgsontop34
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Everyone was late to the party. I mean, Fields didn't really play Varsity until his junior year so unless you loved him at a camp you probably weren't offering him until this most recent season.
Most of the big schools were offering him a full year before us, though. I mean, we were really late to the party.
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Lawrence was winning State Championships as a Soph. so its completely understandable why he was offered first.
Oh, I understand why we went after Lawrence. But we have offers out to 12 QB's right now. Let me check a bit later to see how many we offered before Fields. Of course, we all know there are offers that go out knowing full well a player won't be coming here, but I am curious how many offers to QBs went out ahead of the offer to Fields.
I have to go out for a bit, but will check on it in a half hour or so, and update this post. It could be that I am way off.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:55 am to DawgsLife
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Most of the big schools were offering him a full year before us, though. I mean, we were really late to the party.
That's not even remotely close to being true. Texas, FSU, Florida, Bama, Oregon all offered after us.
He had zero offers a year before we offered him. We were not that late.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 10:59 am to Dawgsontop34
There are advantages to being early/first (see DW4) but I don't think that is playing out with Fields. We are clearly in the hunt even if we weren't "early" to offer him.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:09 am to DawgsLife
quote:He was a 5 star on 247 until fairly recently, still a 5 star on Rivals.
Emory Jones is a 4*, but that's a good point.
quote:Yeah I'm sure if got Fields, a then relatively unknown, to commit around this time last year over the number 1 player in the nation people here would've been fine.
I doubt that.
quote:Recruiting running backs and recruiting QBs isn't close to the same thing.
I would be willing to bet we had offers out to several 5* running backs at one time.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:09 am to Dawgsontop34
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That's not even remotely close to being true. Texas, FSU, Florida, Bama, Oregon all offered after us.
He had zero offers a year before we offered him. We were not that late
I'm sorry. You are correct. none were made a year before us. Many were, however made 5-6 months before us. In recruiting time lines that is a long time.
For every team you named that offered after us, though, there are almost 3 that offered before us.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:10 am to DawgCountry
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We are clearly in the hunt even if we weren't "early" to offer him.
And this is the main thing.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:13 am to DawgCountry
Fields has a very good head on his shoulders, he isn't going to get his panties in a wad because of when we offered him or who we've pursued at QB this class. He's made it a point to say he doesn't care that we were recruiting Lawrence harder than himself before TL committed to Clemson, and his family seemed extremely excited at the time we offered him, no matter how "late" we were.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:14 am to SumterCoDawg
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Yeah I'm sure if got Fields, a then relatively unknown, to commit around this time last year over the number 1 player in the nation people here would've been fine.
We certainly would be now, wouldn't we? And, I think we would have figured we would take 2 QB's this cycle. It's not like we would turn Emory Jones or Lawrence down, right?
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Recruiting running backs and recruiting QBs isn't close to the same thing.
I understand that, but we do have 12 scholarship offers out right now to QB's, and several are 5*'s, so I'm not sure what your point is. mine was that we could have offered and if we did not want him we could do what we would do if any of the other 10-111 QB's tried to commit.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:15 am to DawgsLife
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I'm sorry. You are correct. none were made a year before us. Many were, however made 5-6 months before us. In recruiting time lines that is a long time.
For every team you named that offered after us, though, there are almost 3 that offered before us.
Look at the list of schools who offered way before us though. Other than Tennessee and maybe Penn St., none have the prestige we do. That's almost always the case for a guy who rises up the rankings, especially at the QB position.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:23 am to DawgsLife
quote:After taking 5 stars in the last two classes good luck in convincing 2 QBs to come in in '18, we've had a hard enough time finding one person willing to come in and face that competition.
I think we would have figured we would take 2 QB's this cycle.
quote:I'd be willing to bet a vast majority of those came after Lawrence/Emory made their commitments or at least came after things started not looking great for them. There was a time in January/February that we were sending out offers to QBs on the daily.
but we do have 12 scholarship offers out right now to QB's
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:27 am to Dawgsontop34
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Look at the list of schools who offered way before us though. Other than Tennessee and maybe Penn St., none have the prestige we do. That's almost always the case for a guy who rises up the rankings, especially at the QB position.
This is true, and another good point. It just seems that him being in state we would have had a better read on his abilities than a lot of these other schools. And while many do not have the prestige we do, they apparently spotted his talent before we did.
Hey...I'm not looking for a fight. I am mainly bored on a Saturday, and thought this might be interesting to talk about.
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