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re: 2017 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.)
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:58 pm to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:58 pm to fibonaccisquared
Having my druthers....Give me:
LeCounte
Poole
Brini
(Since we have commits from them, I would keep them)
Then add:
Stevens
Terrell
Gibbs
I realize Williams is a great player and would love to see him here....but his size concerns me.
LeCounte
Poole
Brini
(Since we have commits from them, I would keep them)
Then add:
Stevens
Terrell
Gibbs
I realize Williams is a great player and would love to see him here....but his size concerns me.
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:15 pm to DawgsLife
We need a 5'9 type like Jennings and Boykin.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:27 pm to djsdawg
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We need a 5'9 type like Jennings and Boykin.
Two of my all-time favorites right there.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:35 pm to DawgsLife
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Gibbs
The notes on Gibbs from the Opening are that his cover skills were not as good as expected - meaning he could find his way to safety. Not that it is a bad thing, but I know Kirby and Mel have emphasized an ability to play man coverage. Small sample size but you only get so many chances to go up against the best of the best like that. Will be interesting to see how his SR season goes. Still would be excited to get him, but we need cover corners if Smart and Tucker's system is going to be successful.
I like Terrell's skill set as well, but has been some recent chatter/CBs that he might be leaning to Clemson (Wiltfong notably). Rusty still has him CB'd here, so we shall see I guess.
Williams for all his size troubles was able to play lock down nickel corner against the best of them at the Opening (in addition to what he already does in HS ball). I think if we take 5-6 DBs as is assumed, we can afford to have a guy who's a little smaller with his upside.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:49 pm to djsdawg
quote:J Williams isn't 5'9. On 24/7, Jack Rowe mentioned in a thread that if his arm was being twisted, he would guess around 5'7. Not sure if he meant that without shoes on, as shoes could bump him up closer to that 5'9.
We need a 5'9 type like Jennings and Boykin.
Size doesn't matter as much until you get to the jump ball, and then 5'9 guy has no chance if it is a good thrown ball on a 6'2+ guy. I remember the Mizz game a few years back when they had D Green-Beckham, I think his freshman year, and they had a few tall WR's who would kill us on the jump balls. A. Jeffery for USc is another example of it.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 5:15 pm to DawgGONIT
He was listed as 5'9 at the opening and He looks about 5'9 when around other players. When you already have a group of taller cb's to take on the taller wr's, the short CB like matheiu and Jennings isn't gonna have to deal with such situations often.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 5:24 pm to djsdawg
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We need a 5'9 type like Jennings and Boykin.
If you say so.
ETA This was not meant as a snarky comment. After I reread it, it sounded like one.
And, as I've said before, I am hearing he could have Honey Badger type talent. Mathieu was pretty small too, and I imagine anybody would take him.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 5:30 pm to fibonaccisquared
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The notes on Gibbs from the Opening are that his cover skills were not as good as expected
Wow. I had not seen that.
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I like Terrell's skill set as well,
I really like this guy. Seems to be very aggressive. It would be bad to lose him to Clemson.
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Williams for all his size troubles was able to play lock down nickel corner against the best of them at the Opening (in addition to what he already does in HS ball). I think if we take 5-6 DBs as is assumed, we can afford to have a guy who's a little smaller with his upside.
As I said, Honey badger is small, too, and we would gladly take him. It just makes me a bit nervous.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:06 pm to DawgsLife
You shouldn't be nervous about a short guy in the nickel coverage. You
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:17 pm to djsdawg
Have someone smaller and quicker to match up with inside slot receivers.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:37 pm to djsdawg
quote:Jake Rowe said he was listed @ 5'7 for the opening. He doesn't get why they got it at 5'9.
He was listed as 5'9 at the opening and He looks about 5'9 when around other players. When you already have a group of taller cb's to take on the taller wr's, the short CB like matheiu and Jennings isn't gonna have to deal with such situations often.
Plus Jake said he is 5'9 and swears that J.W. is a bit shorter than him. He does look small on film too.
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There is the thread in question on 24/7, and it is a free read. Here is Jake's quote:
He's not 5'9". Was listed in the opening roster all week as 5'7" I'm 5'9" with my shoes off and he's clearly shorter than me. I still think he's a very good player and a difference making talent, but he isn't 5'9" sorry.
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Either way I hope we can land him, or the other studs @ DB. This DB class can be really special.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 6:11 am to djsdawg
quote:I know you are correct. I've just gotten so set into the mindset that we need bigger DBs that I now have knee jerk reactions to smaller defensive backs. I also understand that a smaller DB could easily cover a slot receiver, who, usually are smaller guys.
You shouldn't be nervous about a short guy in the nickel coverage. You
Posted on 7/13/16 at 7:14 am to DawgsLife
FWIW, I don't think Jamyest Williams is a no-brainer take either. He's probably the best HS football player in the state, but that doesn't make him a great corner prospect. I don't see how a 5'7" corner can be rated as high as he is.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:04 am to Crowknowsbest
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FWIW, I don't think Jamyest Williams is a no-brainer take either. He's probably the best HS football player in the state, but that doesn't make him a great corner prospect. I don't see how a 5'7" corner can be rated as high as he is.
I feel a little better about my misgivings. And, as far as moving him to safety? (I THINK I saw a poster somewhere mention that)....that seems odd to me, too. mainly because when a safety has to cover over the top his primary responsibility will be the deep throws. Those are the ones that will more than likely result in a "jump ball" situation.
As I said....it's probably just a knee jerk reaction on my part, and if a kid has a nose for the ball it doesn't matter how small he is. But....if his height is 5'7" as has been suggested, then his weight probably not 170LBS, either. He would be a butterball at those measurements.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:21 am to Crowknowsbest
Jaymest made the opening 1st team defense with lecounte.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:26 am to djsdawg
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Jaymest made the opening 1st team defense with lecounte.
I realize that. 7on7 is touch football. It's a whole lot easier for a smaller guy in that environment.
I'm not saying he can't be a good college player, but do I take him over an AJ Terrell or the like? No way.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:40 am to Crowknowsbest
That makes no sense. The knock on him ITT is getting beat for jump balls by tall wr's, and defending wr's is at the core of 7v7.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:48 am to djsdawg
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That makes no sense. The knock on him ITT is getting beat for jump balls by tall wr's, and defending wr's is at the core of 7v7.
That's not really my knock on him. My knock on him is how good he can be in run support. Especially if you're playing him in the slot.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 11:49 am
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:07 pm to Crowknowsbest
He is very good at tackling guys. Very thick kid. Jennings was our best tackler at CB in the richt era.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:22 pm to djsdawg
I'm more worried about the taking on blockers in the slot aspect.
I think he's a good prospect, but not a can't-miss one. My point is that I'd rather have a bigger kid, all else being equal.
I think he's a good prospect, but not a can't-miss one. My point is that I'd rather have a bigger kid, all else being equal.
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