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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:17 am to gatorhata9
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:17 am to gatorhata9
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And if he had any semblance of a defense he'd have a natty.
And? You can't flatly say he's the best UGA QB ever, especially with no hardware.
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:18 am to gatorhata9
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Present your arguments.
David Greene won a SECC.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:22 am to HinesvilleThrill
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And? You can't flatly say he's the best UGA QB ever, especially with no hardware.
He's the best statistical qb we've ever had, one of the bests in the SEC. Shockley has hardware, was he a better qb than Murray?
And yeah I can say it, it's my opinion. It's not like we have a rich history of incredible quarterbacks. We've had some good ones but I think Murray is the best.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:25 am to gatorhata9
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Shockley has hardware, was he a better qb than Murray?
Shockley only started 1 year, maybe he would have been if he had 4 years.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:25 am to deeprig9
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:27 am to adawgj
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Shockley only started 1 year, maybe he would have been if he had 4 years.
Maybe. And maybe Murray would have won a national championship if our defense didn't suck. It's all speculation. Murray has the stats, Greene has the hardware. I think Murray was a better quarterback than Greene.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:28 am to gatorhata9
If Murray isn't the best we've ever had, who is? While I will admit that Murray shite the bed in several big games, he also would've beaten the Almighty Alabama and won a Natty if the defense hadn't sucked so bad against the run.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:32 am to GeorgiaBoy
It gets a bit depressing when you realize that 2014 will probably just be a wash with Mason at QB. Our depth seems to lack in just the right places each year to keep us out of it.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:41 am to adawgj
I don't why, but I think we're all going to be pleasantly surprised with Hutson Mason. He will not be Aaron Murray, but he will do what we need him to do to win ball games. Just a feeling.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:43 am to adawgj
I'd probably take Shock, Greene, and Zeier. Then you got the ole timers.
Back to subject, I'd be disappointed if Clemson wasn't a statement game. Couldn't imagine what a lost would stir up around here.
Back to subject, I'd be disappointed if Clemson wasn't a statement game. Couldn't imagine what a lost would stir up around here.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:50 am to GeorgiaBoy
It will be his first time starting at home too. Hopefully that will help with the early game jitters
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:53 am to adawgj
Murray choked on every decent team he played against for three years outside of the SEC game in 2012. He was one for three in bowls and couldn't get in the endzone against UCF.
He was great...against mediocre competition. Against high level defenses he was pick throwing machine until this past season. There's a reason he won't be successful in the NFL.
He was great...against mediocre competition. Against high level defenses he was pick throwing machine until this past season. There's a reason he won't be successful in the NFL.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:04 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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Murray choked on every decent team he played against for three years outside of the SEC game in 2012
So the biggest game of his life, got it.
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He was one for three in bowls and couldn't get in the endzone against UCF.
No one will remember this. And honestly, who gives a shite about bowls.
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He was great...against mediocre competition.
And against good competition. Alabama, LSU, South Carolina, Nebraska, Clemson etc...
Keep spewing nonsense.
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There's a reason he won't be successful in the NFL.
You sound like you don't want him to be successful.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:10 pm to gatorhata9
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So the biggest game of his life, got it.
1 ok performance in a huge game shouldnt nullify the other games
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No one will remember this. And honestly, who gives a shite about bowls.
I will and I do. I believe fans won't simply forget unless they really want to ride Murray's jock
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And against good competition. Alabama, LSU, South Carolina, Nebraska, Clemson etc...
Keep spewing nonsense.
In all honestly he was good 1/2 times vs LSU, 1/4 vs USCe (2011 was not good, idc how many points we scored because also helped score half of theirs), an OK game vs Bama, and I didn't think he was that great vs CU.
I like Zeier and Greene both more than Murray and shite, I personally like Shockley more as well. Stafford, IMO, with these supporting cast would have had similar #s as well.
But hey, thats me
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:17 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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I will and I do. I believe fans won't simply forget unless they really want to ride Murray's jock
Unless a bowl game is a big game, like a BCS game, I don't give a shite. Especially Outback Bowls and the like.
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In all honestly he was good 1/2 times vs LSU, 1/4 vs USCe (2011 was not good, idc how many points we scored because also helped score half of theirs), an OK game vs Bama, and I didn't think he was that great vs CU.
I like Zeier and Greene both more than Murray and shite, I personally like Shockley more as well. Stafford, IMO, with these supporting cast would have had similar #s as well.
I was just showing waffles that he wasn't only good against shitty competition, as he implied. People like him don't give Murray the credit he deserved as a QB. He'll realize how much we're gonna miss the guy when Hutson struggles in a situation that Murray would have excelled in.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:27 pm to Crw2345
I think the defense will be much improved over the last several seasons. They will be turned loose and play much faster with less complicated schemes. Mason will be the quarterback ala Joe Cox, but overall has more talent than Cox did. On offense the key is the O-line, if we can get bodies in the right places the SEC will have load on it hands.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:41 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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I like Zeier and Greene both more than Murray and shite, I personally like Shockley more as well. Stafford, IMO, with these supporting cast would have had similar #s as well.
I was too young to remember Zeier really at all so I'll leave him out, but our offense was much more effective with Murray running it than any of the other 3 (Greene, Shockley, Stafford). Give Murray a Greene era defense, and we're not talking about him finishing his career with no hardware.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:42 pm to gatorhata9
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I was just showing waffles that he wasn't only good against shitty competition, as he implied. People like him don't give Murray the credit he deserved as a QB. He'll realize how much we're gonna miss the guy when Hutson struggles in a situation that Murray would have excelled in.
Well, I kinda side with waffles in that before the 2012 SECCG Murray looked like dog shite vs pretty much all quality competition. Then vs Bama he did ok and 2013 he finally put it together... for the most part. There are still times during the Vandy game, the Mizzou game, and the Clemson game where I cringed like a motherfricker.
That all said I know we'll miss mr manpurse. I was excited by Hutson after GT but after Nebraska I realized in both games his sluggish starts could mean something. But I loved the guttiness of his comebacks. I still dunno what to think about him but I know we'll miss Murray's arm strength and his ability to hit the deep ball which he didn't find until 2013 IMO.
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Unless a bowl game is a big game, like a BCS game, I don't give a shite. Especially Outback Bowls and the like.
I like ya, hata, but dude...
Every game matters when it provides UGA another venue in which to show another program that they are our subservient little bitches
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:46 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I was too young to remember Zeier really at all so I'll leave him out, but our offense was much more effective with Murray running it than any of the other 3 (Greene, Shockley, Stafford). Give Murray a Greene era defense, and we're not talking about him finishing his career with no hardware.
I base all my Zeier ideas on old game footage and stories. But all the arguments yall make for Murray having a Greene defense are valid I say give Greene the surrounding cast like Murray and he'll still do better. Sure, Greene gave off that McCarron vibe, but seldom did he sit there with the deer in the headlights look Murray gave us for 3 straight years. Greene was clutch and made shite happen with a less talented cast of WRs and way less talented RBs. It's not just the stars but the depth at those positions. And, IMO, both OLs were dog shite.
Anyway none of this should came as much surprise as I have been one of the more vocal Murray detractors in the past and I have an inordinate amount of love for Greene, Shockley, and Stafford. Stafford with today's team? Jesus tap dancing Christ...
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:18 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Sure, Greene gave off that McCarron vibe, but seldom did he sit there with the deer in the headlights look Murray gave us for 3 straight years. Greene was clutch and made shite happen with a less talented cast of WRs and way less talented RBs
I was at the 2003 game at LSU. Greene took an absolute beating. I mean brutal. Four sacks and an ungodly amount of hurries. Getting his arse kicked and amidst the hostile environment that is an LSU home game, lead us to a game tying touchdown in the waning minutes. The defense then let him down.
I was also at the 2012 Sackerlina game in Columbia. I'll save you the gory details but I'm sure you remember what happened.
Give me Greene all day every day over Murray.
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