re: Taco Meat commercial running a lot lately

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You see it as important to be the "FSU of Texas" and to gain legions of sidewalk fans. I would prefer that we NOT gain those fans, because they dillute the "Aggie essence," if you will. It would not bother me in the slightest if we were to have a grand total of zero fans who did not actually attend the University. I do not WANT to be associated with a hoard of illiterates who cannot count past ten without removing their footwear. I do no WANT to be Alabama.

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Do you want to win football games or be the school you described above? Sidewalk fans and a valuable brand bring money which brings facilities, top notch recruits and victories.

If you want to be the school described above that's fine, I think you're going to be pretty disappointed with where end up in 10 or so years though

I fully understand your position. I simply do not share it. I would have thought that poiint would be obvious.

Yes. I would rather lose a couple more games than become just another generic, big-box State university. But I do not think that playing our traditional rival will dictate descent into mediocrity.

I have sat at Kyle when we were winning conference titles, and I have sat at Kyle when we were decidedly-not doing so. I was no less proud of being an Aggie in the latter situation,

I have frozen my arse at the old Cotton Bowl, back when it meant something, and I have sat home for seasons when we were not eligible for Shreveport. I was no less proud of my degree when I was warm at home.

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I don't think a national brand and having our traditions are mutually exclusive

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I agree

Of course. that's the point of having one

OK?

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I think this is overstating things. You remember the seasons when the Ags had a shitty team but still managed to win the last game, right? I do, and it still sucked. We still got our asses handed to us on NSD. Hell, we fired a coach after one of those seasons. I seriously doubt it would be any different for the sips.

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Whoa, man, you are dangerously and terribly 100% wrong. It DOES WORK DIFFERENTLY FOR UT. Abso-mother-fricking-1000%-lutely it does!

Here's how it works with the public and recruits:

When UT beats A&M it confirms the popularly held notion in the minds of the populace and recruits that A&M is inferior and UT won because, of course UT won, they should win, that's their birthright. A&M is diminished by it and UT's greatness is confirmed.

When A&M beats UT, no matter their rankings or seasons were like beforehand, it is an upset, A&M stole one from UT; it's not that A&M won, it's that UT lost. It's a fluke, a shame, and by-golly, UT will get revenge next year.

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a game that doesn't benefit us

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I keep seeing this, and I don't get it. That game would boost our bottom line and perceived SOS even when they are down. The longhorns have a big name program. The game would be nationally televised every year unless both teams suck. That's big-time money and exposure. Even if they are down, beating a big name gets you respect.

It used to be that way when coverage was more regional. Now that we are in the SEC, the game would have national implications. The local media won't be able to get away with that shite when journalists across the south are coming to their own conclusions.

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I keep seeing this, and I don't get it. That game would boost our bottom line and perceived SOS even when they are down. The longhorns have a big name program. The game would be nationally televised every year unless both teams suck. That's big-time money and exposure. Even if they are down, beating a big name gets you respect.

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Why couldn't we do the exact same thing with Nebraska, USCw, or Notre Dame? People aren't arguing against a big time OOC game. They're arguing against it because its tu. Right now we have a huge advantage over rival. We are in the SEC and they are stuck in the shitty Big 12. We get the benefit of the SECN. They're stuck not being seen on the LHN. Exposure is important so why get them a chance on the big stage to upset us? Why let them on the stage at all even if we win when we can achieve the same thing vs another big program.

That's a different argument than "we don't benefit at all." We're talking risk/reward calculations here, and denying any benefit to us at all makes it impossible to weigh.

Most of the advantages you listed we would hold whether we play them or not. They'll still be in a shitty conference playing on LHN, and we'll still be in the SEC. If they don't play us, then they'll just schedule another big name program and end up on the stage anyway.

Why risk the upset? Because to me, there's enough reward in winning to justify the risk of losing. I'm a competitor at heart, and I just don't get the same satisfaction out of watching BYU beat them as watching my own team beat them. YMMV depending on how you value the reward vs. the risk.

eta: Plus, I still think tradition counts for something in college football. We don't have the history with any other program that we do with tu.