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re: Ok, which game do we need to win to make you believe we are good this year?
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:40 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:40 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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They've yet to play 2 quarters of football
Don't lay logic on Roger! He still has a Spavital Avi
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:40 pm to Old Sarge
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So Sumlins responsible for our bag men?
He's making $5 million a year, he's responsible for how high the goddamn grass on Kyle Field is.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
Ditch Spav as your Avi so I can take you seriously
And if Sumlin had Kelley we'd be in title contention
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:43 pm to Old Sarge
Here comes a comment about how if we had Kyle Allen we would be in title contention
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:44 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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They've yet to play 2 quarters of football
They've been better than us two years in a row and will most likely make it three. Sumlin and Freeze arrived at the same time and Freeze was left a much shittier roster.
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If we go 10-2 and go to a New Year's bowl I don't care who the two losses come to.
Nobody will, but that's unlikely
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I'm not grading on a curve, I'm grading the entire body of work rather than overreacting a single game sample size
You have established you believe we should have different standards than teams perceived as better than us.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:45 pm to Old Sarge
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Sumlin had Kelley we'd be in title contention
I agree
Kenny Hill or Kyle Allen, too
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:46 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Here comes a comment about how if we had Kyle Allen we would be in title contention
I don't think there's any question about it
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:47 pm to Roger Klarvin
BOTH sides of that arguement are complete speculation
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Nobody will, but that's unlikely
I don't think we will go 10-2, but that's not the point
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You have established you believe we should have different standards than teams perceived as better than us.
I don't think we should have the expectations of Alabama or OU if that's what you're saying. They are better programs than us. I do think we are well behind where we should be under Sumlin. Your manner of judging performance is completely out of whack though and you make sweeping judgments and generalizations based on single games.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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expectations of OU
We darn well should
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:52 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Your manner of judging performance is completely out of whack though and you make sweeping judgments and generalizations based on single games.
Single games? The last time Sumlin's teams were even comparable to Clemson or OM was three years ago.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:52 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Meanwhile on ESPN, Hugh Freeze is starting off a national title campaign in year 5 with a bang
He's also under NCAA investigation. Doubt anything will happen though. Which sucks
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:54 pm to texag7
They will have to vacate many wins and the sanctions will set them back to miss state without Dak levels
Fact
Fact
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:56 pm to Old Sarge
If we start 6-0 (4-0), then I am 100% on hype train to win the west.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:56 pm to texag7
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He's also under NCAA investigation.
Worth it
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:57 pm to Farmer1906
I think we have to realistically acknowledge we won't beat Bama no matter how good we are.
6-0 though would get the recruiting machine going though.
6-0 though would get the recruiting machine going though.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
I don't understand why you keep comparing us to Clemson or why that matters Saying things like "Ole Miss is a national title contender" or "Texas has a floor of 8-4 this year" is making a sweeping generalization off one game (less than one half in one case).
To me it's as simple as looking at the results at the end of this year and the trajectory and seeing where we are vs. where we expect to be. Unless we get very lucky in hiring a coach we aren't going to have an Alabama/USC/Miami type of run or dynasty. We are going to have 8-4 type years here and there, we're just having too many right now.
For me, anything short of 9-3 this year and we should absolutely move on. 9-3 is questionable and I will be disappointed with that. It will depend on what the options are. I expected us to be in the conversation for the west and a top 10ish team by year 5 FWIW
Saying things like "Ole Miss is a national title contender" or "Texas has a floor of 8-4 this year" is making a sweeping generalization off one game (less than one half in one case). To me it's as simple as looking at the results at the end of this year and the trajectory and seeing where we are vs. where we expect to be. Unless we get very lucky in hiring a coach we aren't going to have an Alabama/USC/Miami type of run or dynasty. We are going to have 8-4 type years here and there, we're just having too many right now.
For me, anything short of 9-3 this year and we should absolutely move on. 9-3 is questionable and I will be disappointed with that. It will depend on what the options are. I expected us to be in the conversation for the west and a top 10ish team by year 5 FWIW
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:08 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
The issue is the trajectory, right now ALL evidence points towards Sumlin being propped up by one great year with a once in a lifetime player. Since then it's been all downhill.
I still maintain that losing four games with Johnny Manziel is the single biggest underachievement in the history of modern CFB. Even Gene Chizik won a natty with Cam.
I still maintain that losing four games with Johnny Manziel is the single biggest underachievement in the history of modern CFB. Even Gene Chizik won a natty with Cam.
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
So if we win 9 you'll admit we are on an upward trajectory ?
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The issue is the trajectory, right now ALL evidence points towards Sumlin being propped up by one great year with a once in a lifetime player. Since then it's been all downhill.
I still maintain that losing four games with Johnny Manziel is the single biggest underachievement in the history of modern CFB. Even Gene Chizik won a natty with Cam
I don't really disagree with any of this. I am willing to let this year play out though and include that as well
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