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Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:34 pm
Anyone interested... there are still some decent field level tickets available for the AdvoCare (Texas) bowl game on Dec 29th. You can get these through the main Advocare site for face value + $10 fee.

Quite a few projections have Ags in Texas Bowl vs WVU, Okie Lt, or texass. B12 side will be full as everyone from the scorned conference will be united against us. Probably close to a sellout with the bad blood and tix on Stub Hub are almost 1.5X to 2X higher than face value. If it ends up being Ags vs texass then 3x face will be a wet dream.

Might be a good bet to grab a one or two at face. If they are decent seats, you ought to be able to get your money back out if Ags aren't selected. Just a thought.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:52 pm to
God I hope we don't get matched with a BDF team. Imagining our secondary against WVU or OK State gives me heartburn
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:55 pm to
I grabbed 2 seats on the 30 yard line, half way up the the lower level last week. I think I'll be able to get my money back and then some regardless of who plays. And if it is A&M then I scored great seats.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:00 pm to
I know that seems to be a very popular pick for us but I tend to think it's unlikely. It seems to be against virtually every parties interests.

The SEC decides who goes, not the bowl. And there will be multiple SEC schools that want that one while we have little to no interest. I think the Texas Bowl will probably end up with Arkansas if they get bowl eligible.

The SEC schools travel too well so I don't think the point of them taking over the selection process was to assign the local school to bowls. My guess is we will ask (and receive) a game against the B1G or ACC. We've only had 3 games out of state this year as is. The Bowl game should definitely be out of state imo.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:08 pm to
If tu gets bowl eligible, it makes too much sense for that not to happen. The SEC turns a bowl no one cares about into one of the biggest not selected by the committee. The Texas bowl gets a sure fire sellout, and not one of those sellouts where there are only half the butts in seats.

I'm not under the same impression you are about other SEC teams that well to Houston. LSU could pack it, but Ole Miss, Auburn, & UGA are going to see this as a downer. Even as bad as our 2011 season was, we still filled that stadium fairly well versus a nobody program like Northwestern .

Belk, Texas, Music City, Outback, & one more... I'm blanking are all picked by the SEC and for the most part on the same level. Only the Citrus (formerly CapOne) gets selected between those 6 and the committee bowls.

I see positives of getting the Texas and not. Selfishly I want the Texas bowl if we don't get the Citrus.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:54 pm to
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I'm not under the same impression you are about other SEC teams that well to Houston. LSU could pack it, but Ole Miss, Auburn, & UGA are going to see this as a downer.

it is a downer. It's a shitty bowl. But it's not like the option is Rose or Texas Bowl. It's Memphis or Houston or Birmingham or Jacksonville or some other meh bowl. They are all downers.

Also when you say Houston would be a downer, you are viewing it thru an Ags eyes. UT, UF, USC, or UGA probably all would be happy vs Jax or Orlando yet again. One of the big reasons the SEC took over selection is a lot of schools were incredibly tired playing the same teams in the same destinations for shitty bowls because the bowls kept selecting the local team who they knew would sell tickets, leaving matchups that were pretty undesirable to the fans -- pretty much exactly like A&M vs mediocre Big 12 school.

The SEC will ask the schools what bowl games they prefer. We'll want an ACC or B1G school. UGA will probably want a Big 12 school (they already played Clemson and will play GT and have played a B1G 3 years running). Mississippi may be completely open but may prefer Hou or FL for recruiting. LSU probably wants a FL bowl since they played in Hou already this year.

My point is everyone has their preferences. It seems everyone is just deferring to A&M is near Houston so we'll go there. That was the old world where the bowls picked. But in the new world, it'll probably be something like "congrats, you had a meh season! Please tell us your top 3 choices among these shitty bowls." Then the SEC will assign it based on what the schools actually want.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:12 pm to
But bowls games are about making money. The SEC doesn't want to piss them off and prevent them from having favorable match ups and easy sell outs.

I see both sides to it. I think it'll be somewhere in the middle. Most uneducated about the bowls will not realize the Texas Bowl which used to be the bottom of the bottom for selection is on the same level as the Outback which used to be middle of the pack.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62985 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:17 pm to
I would be okay with playing Texas this year in the bowl because I'm pretty sure we would absolutely skull frick them if the good A&M showed up
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61071 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:17 pm to
quote:


The SEC decides who goes, not the bowl. And there will be multiple SEC schools that want that one while we have little to no interest. I think the Texas Bowl will probably end up with Arkansas if they get bowl eligible.


The Texas Bowl gets 3rd pick from the Big 12 so I think they will get a better team than a potential 6 win Arky.

That bowl being on a Monday night makes me think they will push really hard to get A&M to put butts in seats. You also have to think of the school not wanting to get stuck with a ton of unsold seats for somewhere like Memphis or Tampa.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

the Texas Bowl gets 3rd pick from the Big 12 so I think they will get a better team than a potential 6 win Arky.



TCU & BU make the playoff/committee bowls
KSU to Alamo
OU to Russell

So the leaves the OSU/tu winner & WVU for the Texas.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:22 pm to
RC, your post made me think. Is the SEC going to match teams up to get more wins. I mean say Texas picks tu for the bowl. Is the SEC going to send Ark or LSU, one of the worse bowl eligible teams to save someone like Auburn or Ole Miss for a tougher match up.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61071 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:25 pm to
I'm not ready to say that a Big 12 team makes the playoff. I can see Texas upsetting TCU and can easily see Baylor dropping to Kansas State.

If Baylor drops another game I doubt the Cotton Bowl or Fiesta would take them. They just played at the Fiesta last year and they will have just played at AT&T vs Tech. Their small fan base will hurt them jsut as much as their OOC when it comes time for the big bowls to make their picks.



*edit* I wouldn't be surprised if the SEC tried to match up schools to make it more likely they win. That would probably stop them from putting us against teams like Wisconsin that have very good grind it out running games.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 3:27 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

The Texas Bowl gets 3rd pick from the Big 12 so I think they will get a better team than a potential 6 win Arky

sort of. They get the 3rd pick after the Access Bowls. It's quite likely the Big 12 gets 2 in (TCU + Baylor). Then the order goes

1. Alamo
2. Russell Ath
3. Texas

That makes the Texas Bowl Big 12 #5 in a 10 team league and I think that's going to be pretty normal as the Big 12 will likely get 2 in top 12 most years. Assuming no shockers, Alamo will probably take KSU. Russell will take OU. That leaves WVU at 6-4. They'll probably finish 7-5 and about 5th place. The other options are Texas and OSU, who are playing this week and the winner is likely staring at 6-6 while the loser won't get bowl eligible. The other 3 are out.

Honestly 6-6 Arkansas is pretty much exactly who they match up with
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:34 pm to
The big bowls don't pick. The Committee does. AT this point its hard for me to see TCU & BU getting left out with their resumes.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

If Baylor drops another game I doubt the Cotton Bowl or Fiesta would take them

you are again looking at this from the "old world" point of view. The Committee decides who plays where, not the bowls. If the committee still sees them as top 12 teams, they almost certainly will be chosen. And if Baylor falls out, K-State (the likely team that beats them) catapults in (they are sitting at 13 now)
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61071 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:35 pm to
Of course if both TCU and Baylor win out that would likely happen. But if either of them falls I really do think they will get skipped over by the Access bowls due to small fan bases. Yes, the committee will pick. But they are still going to punish the smaller private schools due to bowl influence. Just you watch. Plus, if its Baylor that falls they will be even more screwed b/c right now they can't even get respect from the committee for beating TCU straight up due to their OOC schedule.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:36 pm to
Fan bases aren't on the list of factors the committee looks at. Its all about that poll on Tuesdays unless there is a bowl tie in. I know Sugar & Orange both have SEC tie ins.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61071 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:40 pm to
The committee will still be heavily influenced by the bowl reps. They will deny all day it but it will happen. Bowl reps want asses in seats b/c that helps them talk local monied interests into lining their pockets. Those reps are going to be working overtime to get things the way they want. Much wining and dining will occur.

It's also not going to help the Big 12's cause that they have no conference title game. They are going to punish all Big 12 teams over this. It's already happening with how Baylor is being dismissed. They might not even make the playoff if they win out. I am highly skeptical they will be rewarded with an Access Bowl if they fall once more b/c of their OOC and the Big 12's lack of a title game.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:44 pm to
you are right and I'm looking at this from a point of view that it's Big 12 #5. And while that's probably the default at the moment, I certainly can't rule out it could change.

We'll see. I just don't think we're going to want Houston given we open in Houston next year and we play 90 miles away. And we don't really want a Big 12 opponent. And I don't see any real reason that will be forced given most of the other schools in the pool wouldn't mind Houston or a Big 12 opponent at all, given the options.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:45 pm to
If they lose one more then they're not a Big XII Champ and in a pool of another 10 2 loss teams. Then maybe not, but they should beat KSU.
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