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Posted by Gradual_Stroke
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:17 am to
Bill Wurtz is great
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 6:50 pm to
LSU fans STILL upset over Speedy Noil.
Posted by agalloch
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 6:57 pm to
Why? It's not even like he's any good.
Posted by Chill98
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:06 pm to
They are just so fearful of A&M success. They can feel their opportunity slipping away. They've wasted so much talent by having Les Miles as coach. Losing Chavis really got to them too.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:32 pm to
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They are just so fearful of A&M success. They can feel their opportunity slipping away. They've wasted so much talent by having Les Miles as coach. Losing Chavis really got to them too

Actually Speedy was brought up because he was part of the 5for5. So when the Tony Brown news broke its just kind of funny because we played ourselves about 5for5 and after today without a doubt LSU got the last laugh. For the past two years prior to Chavis leaving there was a growing issue with him from the fanbase. When he left it just gave a lot of people uncertainty. That particular situation has seem to work out better for us as well. Even if Aranda turns out to be not as good as advertised LSU still came out pretty damn good.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:37 pm to
Spinspinspinspinspin
Posted by CajunTiger_225
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:39 pm to


* Did I actually really spin anything? Pretty much just said what has happened since.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 7:43 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:45 pm to
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Did I actually really spin anything?
yes
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Pretty much just said what has happened since.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:54 pm to
There is a bit a of spin in that amigo

Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:57 pm to
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Actually Speedy was brought up because he was part of the 5for5.
Yup this happened. Check the thread.
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So when the Tony Brown news broke its just kind of funny because we played ourselves about 5for5 and after today without a doubt LSU got the last laugh.
The two players that signed with LSU have been the most productive for their respective programs. Speedy had a good frosh year. Hopefully he steps up his junior year for yall.
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For the past two years prior to Chavis leaving there was a growing issue with him from the fanbase.
Like you would know regardless but thats 100% correct.
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When he left it just gave a lot of people uncertainty.
I know for a fact you remember the melt. That's like a highlight within the Aggies.
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That particular situation has seem to work out better for us as well.
Is this where I flipped on the turntables? Ed Orgeron is all I have to say. Someone who can actually recruit for the defense.
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Even if Aranda turns out to be not as good as advertised LSU still came out pretty damn good.

Well how did we not? Pulled in an elite class. Tacked on two more good recruiters. One of Auburn's favorite coaches.

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Did I actually really spin anything?
yes


Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:59 pm to
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There is a bit a of spin in that amigo

Im pretty confident I took the least ignorant route. I could have just said mean things about Texas a&m but that would be inappropriate.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:12 pm to
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The two players that signed with LSU have been the most productive for their respective programs.
LF? Sure. Malachi? Its pretty much a wash. Speedy was better as a freshman and malachi was better last year
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Like you would know regardless but thats 100% correct.
uhhh you mean I can't look at how LSU fans posted about Chavis? Interesting. Funny how all of the "growing issues" didn't become a thing until he actually left.
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I know for a fact you remember the melt. That's like a highlight within the Aggies
you know why? Because literally the week before LSU fans were laughing at A&M for even thinking about Chavis. So yea, the position LSU fans have on Chavis is a pretty big spin of the whole situation
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Well how did we not? Pulled in an elite class.
because who knows how well he will do at LSU. Kind of pointless to say he is already better for LSU than Chavis was when we don't know how he will do at LSU. Especially when our defense took a major step up in year one under Chavis
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still applies
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:12 pm to
All of the LSU posters posts have am up vote and ours have a down vote
Posted by DBU
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:22 pm to
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Malachi? Its pretty much a wash. Speedy was better as a freshman and malachi was better last year


Malachi has Speedy beat in every category except # of receptions and that's largely because of the difference in the offensive schemes.

IMO, Speedy would have transferred out of LSU just like Quinn because of the offense. He wouldn't start over Dupre or Dural in our scheme and thus wouldn't get the looks he gets/should get in your offense.

I don't know if it was just injuries holding him back last year or what but I'm hoping for Speedy to turn it around for y'all this year. I loved watching his high school tape, reminded so much of Percy Harvin.

Back on topic, hindsight being 20/20, I'm fine with how "5 for 5" turned out.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:26 pm to
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Malachi has Speedy beat in every category exception # of receptions and that's largely because of the difference in the offensive schemes.

that's also because of how little speedy played last year. Speedy was either tied or better than in every receiving category their freshman year outside of yards per reception and thats before we get into what speedy did out of the return game. They've pretty much been a wash
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IMO, Speedy would have transferred out of LSU just like Quinn because of the offense. He wouldn't start over Dupre or Dural in our scheme
he would at the bare minimum have a place in returning kicks
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Back on topic, hindsight being 20/20, I'm fine with how "5 for 5" turned out.


that's cool. Im not saying that it didn't turn out well for you guys. But it's not like speedy has been a failure like Tony brown and Willis have been
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 8:27 pm
Posted by DBU
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:29 pm to
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he would at the bare minimum have a place in returning kicks


Likely true but I don't think being the primary kick returner would keep him here.

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that's cool. But it's not like speedy has been a failure like Tony brown and Willis have been


Obviously not, but I don't think the last 2 seasons would have gone any differently with him here.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:39 pm to
LSU fans are really missing the ball on this one. Should be talking about how the players you did get have been successful and the ones who decided to go elsewhere got themselves in trouble. You didn't dodge a bullet, they missed their opportunity.

At least that's how I'd be spinning it if it were us
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:40 pm to
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Sure. Malachi

Chi Dupre is completely irrelevant to 5for5
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Funny how all of the "growing issues" didn't become a thing until he actually left.

You apparently arent as informed as you think you are.
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Because literally the week before LSU fans were laughing at A&M for even thinking about Chavis.

Well Im not trying to hurt anyones feelings but the "corndogs" yall go back and forth with on tSECr consider yalls football program inferior. Not saying I do. You probably already knew that though.
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So yea, the position LSU fans have on Chavis is a pretty big spin of the whole situation
So we're spinning it in our favor even though it worked out in our favor? And I'm dissecting the whole situation like you apparently are.
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because who knows how well he will do at LSU. Kind of pointless to say he is already better for LSU than Chavis was when we don't know how he will do at LSU. Especially when our defense took a major step up in year one under Chavis

Holy context issues batman. I see how you're confused because that's not what I said. Thats going to take a couple of years to determine that being Chavis was here so long and fielded some nasty defenses. I was basically saying how we came out way on top after everyone counted us out after Chavis left and gave us shite for 5for5. I'm not really wrong in saying that.
If they could go back I would hope Chavis would leave all over again.
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Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:41 pm to
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LSU fans are really missing the ball on this one. Should be talking about how the players you did get have been successful and the ones who decided to go elsewhere got themselves in trouble. You didn't dodge a bullet, they missed their opportunity.

At least that's how I'd be spinning it if it were us


I'm not a "spinner"

I don't believe for a second that Willis or Brown would have behaved any differently anywhere else, least of all LSU. It isn't like we're known for having "choirboys" on our team.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:42 pm to
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All of the LSU posters posts have am up vote and ours have a down vote

Here's an upvote for you since you're so lonely.
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