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Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:49 pm to cas4t
Briles don't give AF. He's an absolute sleeze bag dickhead. It's universally known, but this is beyond low even for him.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:50 pm to Nguyening
On a more positive note. My little bro got his Daylon Mack sized duck vs 100 duck sized Daylon macks question answered. Lolololol Ask the Ag
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:53 pm to cas4t
How the hell did this guy manage to stay out of jail in Boise in the first place?
Kind of hard to predict where this story will go next.
I don't know what was said between Petersen and Briles. But it sure does seem like the victim received some shabby treatment from Baylor. She's the one that ended up getting her scholarship taken away, while he graduates. That's pretty messed up.
Kind of hard to predict where this story will go next.
I don't know what was said between Petersen and Briles. But it sure does seem like the victim received some shabby treatment from Baylor. She's the one that ended up getting her scholarship taken away, while he graduates. That's pretty messed up.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:02 pm to BearBait09
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Really? you can't think of a single reason why Peterson, who Briles claimed failed to tell him about some obviously pertinent information, would want claim that he totally told Briles everything?
nope I can't. Not one. Petersen has the option to say nothing. He's not responsbile at all here. He was a freshman all-American and he booted the kid.
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but you're an idiot if you think Peterson has no reason to lie
What Chris Petersen did or didn't tell Art Briles in 2012 is meaningless. Petersen has no need to defend it. Art made it meaningful only because he tried to blame Petersen like a 5-year old. "I didn't know. Chris didn't tell me." As if somehow that absolves him.
The rape was almost 2 years ago. The problem was, and read this 3 times before you respond, when he was accused of rape, Briles had a fricking responsibility here that he shirked. By failing to investigate his dismissal from Boise, choosing to remain ignorant, which is the defense he seems to be going with, he's a complete fricking piece of shite.
He allowed this monster remain on campus and on scholarship for 2 years after committing a violent crime. And that's best case scenario in which he's telling the truth about what he knew.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:12 pm to Nguyening
Haha haha that is awesome
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:13 pm to TexasAg13
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Man, reading the details about "Jane Doe's" take, something has to be done. It makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it.
Covering up or overlooking something like this is just a whole different level of piece of shite. You can pay players, pay their handlers, overlook a free tattoo setup, whatever. This is much different
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:15 pm to tmc94
yup. hope he gets the maximum sentence and castration.
would be nice if briles was fired for harboring someone he knew to be a complete pos and thought football was more important that the safety of the students who go there.
frick baylor for not helping out a real student and covering for someone who deserves to be put in front of a firing squad.
would be nice if briles was fired for harboring someone he knew to be a complete pos and thought football was more important that the safety of the students who go there.
frick baylor for not helping out a real student and covering for someone who deserves to be put in front of a firing squad.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:17 pm to tmc94
Ok I read it 3 times.
Your facts are not completely straight. Before I make any comments I just want to say, I'm not at all confident Briles is factually absolvable, he may have dropped the ball as badly as you believe.
But,
Petersen looks TERRIBLE if he says nothing. Washington could fire him if they believed Petersen intentionally withheld Ukwuachu's specific behavior (and also wanted to fire him, If they still love him they could also overlook it, which they probably would, given his success at Boise and him just starting, and everyone on the planet so god damn obsessed with winning, not a judgment, im guilty too.)
Ukwuachu was allowed to continue classes at Baylor and graduate because the judicial board did not believe him guilty. Briles has nothing to do with that. The judicial board is the party responsible for fricking that up, and Briles can't be expected to punt the kid simply because the thing he was ACCUSED of was awful.
Remember, he JUST got convicted, up until now he was legally innocent. And had been cleared by Baylor judicial. He has also never been on the active roster. I'm assuming he practiced with the team before the incident during his sit out year, so I'd like to believe they had a chance to realize he was a bad guy, but I think it's unfair to expect that and punish someone for failing to catch it.
Your facts are not completely straight. Before I make any comments I just want to say, I'm not at all confident Briles is factually absolvable, he may have dropped the ball as badly as you believe.
But,
Petersen looks TERRIBLE if he says nothing. Washington could fire him if they believed Petersen intentionally withheld Ukwuachu's specific behavior (and also wanted to fire him, If they still love him they could also overlook it, which they probably would, given his success at Boise and him just starting, and everyone on the planet so god damn obsessed with winning, not a judgment, im guilty too.)
Ukwuachu was allowed to continue classes at Baylor and graduate because the judicial board did not believe him guilty. Briles has nothing to do with that. The judicial board is the party responsible for fricking that up, and Briles can't be expected to punt the kid simply because the thing he was ACCUSED of was awful.
Remember, he JUST got convicted, up until now he was legally innocent. And had been cleared by Baylor judicial. He has also never been on the active roster. I'm assuming he practiced with the team before the incident during his sit out year, so I'd like to believe they had a chance to realize he was a bad guy, but I think it's unfair to expect that and punish someone for failing to catch it.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:30 pm to BearBait09
What?
Washington would fire him for a scumbag woman beater on his team at Boise, that he kicked off the team?
I don't understand in what scenario Peterson looks bad.
Washington would fire him for a scumbag woman beater on his team at Boise, that he kicked off the team?
I don't understand in what scenario Peterson looks bad.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:32 pm to Nguyening
He didn't have to say anything about what he told Briles, it's Briles responsibility to know who he's bringing in.
He went out of his way to point out HE contacted Briles to let him know the nature of the reason for dismissal, bc he wanted the truth to be out after Briles tried to slime his way out of it. He likely did it because he thinks Briles is a POS like the rest of us.
He could have just said they talked about it, but he went further and pointed out he had to initiate contact with Briles.
He went out of his way to point out HE contacted Briles to let him know the nature of the reason for dismissal, bc he wanted the truth to be out after Briles tried to slime his way out of it. He likely did it because he thinks Briles is a POS like the rest of us.
He could have just said they talked about it, but he went further and pointed out he had to initiate contact with Briles.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:51 pm to BearBait09
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Petersen looks TERRIBLE if he says nothing. Washington could fire him if they believed Petersen intentionally withheld Ukwuachu's specific behavior
No. They couldn't. When you dismiss a kid, you are not required to say why. It's up to the next person that gives him a scholarship has to make that decision for themselves. He booted him from the football program and the school. There is literally nothing Chris Petersen did wrong here nor is there anything worth lying about.
I like you Bait. But you're looking at this totally thru Baylor fan goggles. He was not booted for a crime. We know that because there is no criminal record. There is no issue in my mind with Briles taking him. I'd prefer my coach not do so, or at the very least have real tangible info on why he was booted, but I don't really have a problem with someone getting a second chance. You are attempting to make this about what happened at Boise. It's just not.
It's Briles's absolute responsibility to have his eyes open here. He didn't. His willful ignorance, if you deign to accept his defense at face value, is pure negligence and absolutely actionable.
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Ukwuachu was allowed to continue classes at Baylor and graduate because the judicial board did not believe him guilty. Briles has nothing to do with that.
horse shite. Briles took on a kid that he absolutely knew got booted from another school. The second the DA filed charges he should have been dropped regardless of what Baylor's half-assed Title IX investigation came up with. DA's don't press charges without compelling evidence.
But he and Baylor went a step further. They say they didn't know why he was booted. But they didn't even attempt to find out after charges were filed. And they willfully looked the other way for almost 2 years
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Remember, he JUST got convicted, up until now he was legally innocent.
He was under indictment. You're splitting hairs for no real purpose.
quote:Title IX doesn't require beyond a shadow of a doubt, it requires reasonably likely. This is the real problem with the Title IX investigation and why Baylor has opened themselves up to a massive lawsuit
And had been cleared by Baylor judicial.
You may feel Briles has no responsibility here. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's the biggest rube on earth. But Baylor as an institution is about to be hammered whether you think they should be or not
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:04 pm to tmc94
Not to mention there was police reports and a rape kit available to the Baylor investigation that they ignored. They did such a slap dick job at their investigation trying to make it go away that the judge ordered the defense not to mention it. I mean they went so far as to make the accuser change her schedule and reduce her scholarship to the point she transferred. That whole school is trash and hypocritical. If I am ever so blessed to have kids they will never step foot in that den of vipers
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:06 pm to AgBQ00
Absolutely deplorable on baylor's part. Sickening.
I have a sister there. Not very bright in picking that school, but I'd be ready to harm a LOT of folks if some bullshite like this happened to her there.
Pray for her every day, with her silly headed green and gold self
I have a sister there. Not very bright in picking that school, but I'd be ready to harm a LOT of folks if some bullshite like this happened to her there.
Pray for her every day, with her silly headed green and gold self
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:11 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Yeah Baylor has expressed intrest in my God daughter for their softball team and she's going back to Lil ole University of the Ozarks and will never set foot on Baylor's campus if I have any say in it.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:14 pm to Nguyening
Garrett seems like an intelligent dude
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:26 pm to cas4t
Yeah he's one of those guys you're proud of long after they're gone. He's a good kid.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:26 pm to Nguyening
Favorite hype music? (Asked to Myles G.)
- Dean Martin & Marvin Gaye
- Dean Martin & Marvin Gaye
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:33 pm to Agforlife
What's Baylor paying Art Briles to run their football program, $3 - $4 million per year, or thereabouts? How does he get by playing dumb in this business? Isn't it his job to know what all happened in Boise before he let him transfer in?
After Petersen booted him off the team, that should have raised a red flag that there's something more here than say a public intoxication charge.
After Petersen booted him off the team, that should have raised a red flag that there's something more here than say a public intoxication charge.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:35 pm to PikeBishop
Exactly. Teams do jot kick off freshman all Americans if there is something redeemable there
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