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re: Texas recruits in the SEC since Texas A&M joined the SEC

Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
29501 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:26 pm to
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LSU fans (most of which probably don't have a degree from LSU) feel necessary to ignore the original post but flame away


The original post was not ignored. A topic was presented with false pretense (aka "LSU's may have slowed down some"). The point was made that LSU just snagged two top recruits from Texas and an unusually high number of overall Texas signees in the class, two years after A&M joined the conference.

You, Kline, you began slighting LSU's program, coach, etc. with 'fact-based opinions' of how A&M is superior on and off the field.

Waiting for the rebuttal...
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1608 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Post about your linebackers


No
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1608 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Waiting for the rebuttal...


He's still trying to figure out how he can explain away his spot-on assessment of Missouri.
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1608 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:32 pm to


Try this Kline
Posted by Kline
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2012
127 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:39 pm to
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What is your metric?


Yards per game
Touchdowns
Heisman mention


That should do it.
Posted by Kline
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2012
127 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:43 pm to
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He's still trying to figure out how he can explain away his spot-on assessment of Missouri.


Nothing wrong with my assessment of Missouri last year. Who else thought they would win the SEC during August of 2013?

Apparently the SEC east is weaker than we thought and Missouri was better than we thought.

I will go ahead and say I don't see Missouri repeating their performance that they had last year. I think they lost too much talent and experience and do not have the depth of other SEC teams. Same problem that Texas A&M has that is being corrected by top recruiting classes. Haven't seen Missouri listed with the top recruiting classes.

Of course you missed the comment where I stated that "the games still have to be played."

Posted by Kline
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2012
127 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

No

Okay with that.
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1608 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:50 pm to
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Nothing wrong with my assessment of Missouri last year


Actually the whole assessment was wrong

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Apparently the SEC east is weaker than we thought


They beat a few SEC West teams last year if I recall correctly

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I will go ahead and say I don't see Missouri repeating their performance that they had last year


I wouldnt think that you would


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Haven't seen Missouri listed with the top recruiting classes


And yet they beat teams who have recruited top talent. That is in direct conflict with your beliefs and statements
Posted by Kline
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2012
127 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:53 pm to
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The original post was not ignored. A topic was presented with false pretense (aka "LSU's may have slowed down some"). The point was made that LSU just snagged two top recruits from Texas and an unusually high number of overall Texas signees in the class, two years after A&M joined the conference.

You, Kline, you began slighting LSU's program, coach, etc. with 'fact-based opinions' of how A&M is superior on and off the field.

Waiting for the rebuttal...


I have stated that Texas A&M has had a superior offense to LSU ever since Kevin Sumlin arrived in College Station. This is known as factual.

As an aside there is nothing trending showing that a Les Miles offense will ever superscede a Kevlin Sumlin offense.

I have stated that LSU has and has had a better defense than Texas A&M for years. I have also stated that Texas A&M is correcting their defensive woes through recruiting top defensive talent. Who knows if they will get as good as LSU's defense. My point is that with equal defenses Texas A&M wins most head to head contest because a Les Miles offense is not going to out score a Kevin Sumlin offense with all things being equal on the defensive side of the ball.

As to which school is ranked higher and whose students get paid more and who has a larger endowment and who gets more research dollars this is all public record. As much as you would like to treat Texas A&M as your piss ant step-child with all of your personal attacks, derision, vitriol, invective and condescension we really aren't your piss-ant step child.

Learn to respect your opponent. You have to give respect to get respect. I don't think you have ever posted one thing respectful about Texas A&M. Says a lot about you.
Posted by Kline
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2012
127 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Actually the whole assessment was wrong

Your opinion. Wisdom does not began and end with you. Thank God!
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They beat a few SEC West teams last year if I recall correctly

And...

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And yet they beat teams who have recruited top talent. That is in direct conflict with your beliefs and statements

And of course this is ludicrous because I have no conflict with my beliefs that better players make better teams...but you twist it anyway that you want. I have stated that the games have to be played and of course the rest of us know that the teams with the higher ranked talent win more games year in and year out. That is why Les Miles, Nick Saban, and Kevin Sumlin spend so much time and effort getting those players to play for them.

Virginia Tech just beat Ohio State. It happens but not as the standard. It happens as the exception otherwise known as an upset....like when Texas A&M beat Bama in 2012. The 2014 spanking of South Carolina in 2014 is not an upset because there is nothing that would leave you to believe that the result would turn out differently if played again today.

Give a person a little grace space and you will likely make more friends.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted by FL tigers 321
the BREvard
Member since Dec 2013
513 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:04 pm to
Bro we wont be able to score with A&M you guys only scored 10 pts last year against us with your offense that is light years ahead of ours
Real fact since joining the SEC you guys havent even got 20 on us.
Truth is you guys have had alot of success in the SEC since joining, youve even beat every team in the SEC West at least once over two years except... LSU. Rebuttal?
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted by FL tigers 321
the BREvard
Member since Dec 2013
513 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1608 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:11 pm to
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As an aside there is nothing trending showing that a Les Miles offense will ever superscede a Kevlin Sumlin offense.


2014 Recruiting Class included #6 Guard, #12 Guard, #1 Running Back, #3 Dual Threat QB, #4 Tight End, #2 Receiver and #11 Reciver(Who just finished his senior year as the nations record holder for career receiving yards)

Yep nothing trending here....
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1608 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

And...



And you with your superior talent, one of which was a Heisman Winner, were one of them....
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1608 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:27 pm to


Come on Kline, if you comeback I promise to stop bringing up facts and will be open to having a completely hypothetical debate based on ignorant assumptions.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
29501 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:46 pm to
Hang on, Sybil. I brought up the fact (used properly) that you, upon one mention that your OP was incorrect, began puffing the chest and claiming king of the hill. So, gloves off, get ready.

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I have stated that Texas A&M has had a superior offense to LSU ever since Kevin Sumlin arrived in College Station. This is known as factual.

Net result: 0 Wins, 2 Losses

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As an aside there is nothing trending showing that a Les Miles offense will ever superscede a Kevlin Sumlin offense.


As an aside? WTF? Trending? WTF? How does an offense superscede (sic) another?

quote:

I have stated that LSU has and has had a better defense than Texas A&M for years. I have also stated that Texas A&M is correcting their defensive woes through recruiting top defensive talent. Who knows if they will get as good as LSU's defense. My point is that with equal defenses Texas A&M wins most head to head contest because a Les Miles offense is not going to out score a Kevin Sumlin offense with all things being equal on the defensive side of the ball.

And LSU just sits around doing nothing. No Cam Cameron, no concentration of offensive talent. Nothing.

quote:

As to which school is ranked higher and whose students get paid more and who has a larger endowment and who gets more research dollars this is all public record. As much as you would like to treat Texas A&M as your piss ant step-child with all of your personal attacks, derision, vitriol, invective and condescension we really aren't your piss-ant step child.

#1. I've never spoken ill of the academic reputation of A&M.
#2. When you spout crap like the quoted text above, you sound childish or dumb or both.

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Learn to respect your opponent. You have to give respect to get respect. I don't think you have ever posted one thing respectful about Texas A&M. Says a lot about you.

Yet you were the first in this thread, your own thread, to throw jabs.
Posted by Aggball
Houston
Member since Jun 2014
640 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:47 pm to
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Real fact since joining the SEC you guys havent even got 20 on us.


Not trying to trade places with the new punching bag, but, how is this fact? 19 + 10 =...... ?
Posted by Kline
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2012
127 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:48 pm to
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2014 Recruiting Class included #6 Guard, #12 Guard, #1 Running Back, #3 Dual Threat QB, #4 Tight End, #2 Receiver and #11 Reciver(Who just finished his senior year as the nations record holder for career receiving yards)

Yep nothing trending here....


No there is absolutely nothing trending for anyone anywhere to think that the Les Miles scheme no matter who the athletes are will out produce the KDS offense. It is not about the talent because LSU has talent.

Explain how Sumlin destroyed so many SEC records in two years and seems set on destroying more this year? It is the scheme.

By the way, we brought in the #1 quarterback and the #1 receiver/athlete. We do have better quartebacks top to bottom and we do have a better receiver core going 8 to 10 deep. We also have a better O-line.

It doesn't matter is the point. KDS would out produce our team with your athletes if you traded players and kept the same schemes.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
81819 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:50 pm to
god damn i love this thread
Posted by FL tigers 321
the BREvard
Member since Dec 2013
513 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:50 pm to
Im sorry i meant in one game thanks Aggball
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