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re: Texas A&M fans, how will your class finish up?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 7:28 am to hehatedrew
Posted on 1/29/16 at 7:28 am to hehatedrew
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Damn right...
Imagine if y'all could afford more than 4 good players every three recruiting cycles.
Y'all might actually have something other than 7-9 win mediocrity
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:06 am to WilliamTaylor21
Ags offered a JUCO TE committed to Indiana. With us missing on Smith and Moss, I guess they're going JUCO and hopefully H Back route with Hansford.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:00 am to Farmer1906
And now The Chavis Conundrum is becoming apparent to Aggie. Great from September-through November, a horrible liability thereafter. If you don't believe it, look at LSU over-signing like our hair is on fire on the defensive side of the ball to compensate for all that defensive class depth that isn't there any longer. Thank God our draft-eligible guys are staying or we'd be so screwed.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:06 am to Lsupimp
Well that is not true at all.
Dodson & Okeke aren't even recruited without Chavis. Most likely the same for Hansford. I highly doubt A&M is able to land Madubuike, Oliver, or stand a chance with Jones.
And if you want to look at last year we don't have Mack without Chavis.
Dodson & Okeke aren't even recruited without Chavis. Most likely the same for Hansford. I highly doubt A&M is able to land Madubuike, Oliver, or stand a chance with Jones.
And if you want to look at last year we don't have Mack without Chavis.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:07 am
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:07 am to Lsupimp
Chief doesn't recruit our entire defensive class. That would be pretty dumb IMO. Our staff does evaluations and then area recruiters handle the rest. Sometimes those area recruiters don't even coach the same side of the ball as that recruit! It's pretty crazy stuff
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:08 am to Lsupimp
LSU is in good shape now, but I think you will have a very different dynamic right before the season. The new staff is supposed to be moving to a "hybrid" defense that runs a base 3-4. There are going to be a bunch of upset kids going into next season, because they over recruited every position on defense.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:10 am to Chill98
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LSU is in good shape now, but I think you will have a very different dynamic right before the season. The new staff is supposed to be moving to a "hybrid" defense that runs a base 3-4. There are going to be a bunch of upset kids going into next season, because they over recruited every position on defense.
LSU won't run anywhere near a 3-4 this upcoming year.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:13 am to Farmer1906
I'm not flaming but of course you would say that. You'll pretend he's a legit recruiter every time you sign a kid, even though everybody knows he's a mediocre recruiter at best.We'll just politely pretend all these other schools aren't cherry-picking all this Texas defensive talent that a premier recruiter would have wrapped up. After he is gone you'll concede the argument, and not a day before. That's how we all do it.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:14 am to Lsupimp
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I'm not flaming but of course you would say that. You'll pretend he's a legit recruiter every time you sign a kid, even though everybody knows he's a mediocre recruiter at best.We'll just politely pretend all these other schools aren't cherry-picking all this Texas defensive talent that a premier recruiter would have wrapped up. After he is gone you'll concede the argument, and not a day before. That's how we all do it.
Yep. I'll run a composite ranking of the state of Texas and see how A&M stacks up
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:22 am to Lsupimp
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I'm not flaming but of course you would say that. You'll pretend he's a legit recruiter every time you sign a kid, even though everybody knows he's a mediocre recruiter at best.We'll just politely pretend all these other schools aren't cherry-picking all this Texas defensive talent that a premier recruiter would have wrapped up. After he is gone you'll concede the argument, and not a day before. That's how we all do it.
Call it what you want. There is too much talent and too many options for any single school to lock down the state of Texas. LSU, BAMA, and other programs do a nice job of getting big time commits from Texas and other states. A&M gets its fair share too. Recently more so than in a long time. Go back and look at A&M's defensive recruiting 10 years ago to now.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:31 am to Farmer1906
State of Texas Top 50 composite rankings
01. Baylor - 137.7
02. Texas A&M - 128.17
03. Texas - 104.77
04. LSU - 95.62
05. TCU - 86.02
06. Houston - 77.19
07. Alabama - 69.16
08. Ole Miss - 50.8
09. Stanford - 27.94
10. Arkanas - 25.24
01. Baylor - 137.7
02. Texas A&M - 128.17
03. Texas - 104.77
04. LSU - 95.62
05. TCU - 86.02
06. Houston - 77.19
07. Alabama - 69.16
08. Ole Miss - 50.8
09. Stanford - 27.94
10. Arkanas - 25.24
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:32 am to Farmer1906
Texas Top 100 (looking at top 50)
2. Oliver - UH
6. Jones - undecided (A&M, tu)
8. Anderson - undecided
9. Monroe - LSU
10. Madubuike - A&M
11. McColloch - undecided (ND, Standford, tu)
12. Fowler - LSU
13. Jackson - undecided
14. Jones - Bama
18. Elliot - undecided (tu?)
19. Delance - tu
23. Bowen - BU
24. Mayden - undecided
27. Daniels - undecided (A&M, tu, Ark)
31. Thronton - LSU
32. Jackson - A&M
33. Fitzgerald - tu
34. Jones - OM
35. Fuller - A&M
38. Blacklock - TCU
40. Oliver - A&M
43. Cuffee - tu
46. Onwuzurike - UW
47. Cobb - OU
A&M is going to finish with anywhere from 4 to 6 top 50 players (defense only) in the state.
2. Oliver - UH
6. Jones - undecided (A&M, tu)
8. Anderson - undecided
9. Monroe - LSU
10. Madubuike - A&M
11. McColloch - undecided (ND, Standford, tu)
12. Fowler - LSU
13. Jackson - undecided
14. Jones - Bama
18. Elliot - undecided (tu?)
19. Delance - tu
23. Bowen - BU
24. Mayden - undecided
27. Daniels - undecided (A&M, tu, Ark)
31. Thronton - LSU
32. Jackson - A&M
33. Fitzgerald - tu
34. Jones - OM
35. Fuller - A&M
38. Blacklock - TCU
40. Oliver - A&M
43. Cuffee - tu
46. Onwuzurike - UW
47. Cobb - OU
A&M is going to finish with anywhere from 4 to 6 top 50 players (defense only) in the state.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:34 am to VermilionTiger
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01. Baylor - 137.7
02. Texas A&M - 128.17
03. Texas - 104.77
04. LSU - 95.62
05. TCU - 86.02
06. Houston - 77.19
07. Alabama - 69.16
08. Ole Miss - 50.8
09. Stanford - 27.94
10. Arkanas - 25.24
What is your point?
A&M is only(currently) getting recruited in state by BU. It sure isn't on the defensive side of the ball.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:37 am to Farmer1906
That you're getting out recruited by Baylor and Texas is soon to follow. You're only a hair away from being behind LSU and LSU only has 4 commits from the state.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:40 am to VermilionTiger
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That you're getting out recruited by Baylor and Texas is soon to follow. You're only a hair away from being behind LSU and LSU only has 4 commits from the state.
Depends on signing down. A&M will likely finish #1 in the state.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:46 am to Farmer1906
You don't think Texas is going to close like expected?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:49 am to VermilionTiger
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ou don't think Texas is going to close like expected?
Expected by who?
Texas will close but have some room to make up, and even if A&M is slow to the finish line, they have a nice lead.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:51 am to Farmer1906
If you had a high-tier dynamic recruiters and had five more guys on that recruiting list like the LSU/Bama/Ole Miss staff would if they were recruiting at A&M, you'd see. They aren't locking down the guys you would expect the only SEC member in Texas would. A&M IS "competing" but not dominating. It looked like you might there for a while, but you guys didn't sustain. Especially with the attrition and the negativity surrounding that.IMHO, you guys are going to get a "C" in 2016 relative to what the potential is (take that as a compliment).
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:04 pm to Lsupimp
I don't disagree with any of that. Our coaches made too many missteps this cycle. We will have the best class in Texas but the seperation should be greater. 8-4 didn't help either
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:49 pm to SoberAg
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Brandon Jones? No
Deontay Anderson? No
Jeff McCulloch? No
Dontavious Jackson? No
Quartney Davis? Yes
I'm about to go 5/5.
I'll take it further...
Jack Jones? No
Jauan Williams? No
Pennamon? Yes
Hansford? Yes
To blame Chavis is silly still, imo. This is all on Sumlin.
McCulloch, Cuffee, B. Jones, Daniels, and a couple more all sign here if it wasn't for how he handled the NFL rumors and QB situation/transfers. The negative recruiting that came from that is almost comical.
Carry on with the debate, but either way we are going to stumble to the NSD.
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