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re: Paging MagillaGuerilla: I need a recruiting analysis on D'haquille Williams...
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:02 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:02 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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So I am to understand DW has already been named All-SEC?
Second team. Duron Carter is first team.
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:03 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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So I am to understand DW has already been named All-SEC?
3rd team ALL-SEC on Phil Steele's
ETA: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This post was edited on 7/22/13 at 11:04 am
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:08 am to MagillaGuerilla
Right and Dez is more physical but can get super sloppy at times and totally lacks focus, his college O versus D Thomas' O also didnt do him any favors, Thomas had to capitalize on every opportunity since he got a whole lot less targets amd Dez's full 2 yrs at Ok St he was target city so each guy's development was vastly different
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:15 am to NBamaAlum
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Second team. Duron Carter is first team.
lol
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:28 am to TTsTowel
I saw him play twice in HS and he's definitely the best WR prospect I've ever seen at that level. I think if he had his head on straight he's in the Julio Jones/AJ Green level of talent at the WR position.
That being said, he was ejected from both games that I saw him play in, both times for fighting. He started throwing punches at a kid with a helmet on and made a scene on the sideline for a while after he had been ejected. The second time I saw him play the exact same scene played out. That, coupled with his interviews that I have read and word I hear about his attitude lead me to believe that Williams will be one of those ultra talented kids who never made a name for himself because he's a complete headcase.
A shame too because like I said, hands down the best WR I have EVER seen at that level. Nothing really lacking in his game. Totally lacking upstairs though.
That being said, he was ejected from both games that I saw him play in, both times for fighting. He started throwing punches at a kid with a helmet on and made a scene on the sideline for a while after he had been ejected. The second time I saw him play the exact same scene played out. That, coupled with his interviews that I have read and word I hear about his attitude lead me to believe that Williams will be one of those ultra talented kids who never made a name for himself because he's a complete headcase.
A shame too because like I said, hands down the best WR I have EVER seen at that level. Nothing really lacking in his game. Totally lacking upstairs though.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:52 pm to BuccWildBammer
Running option routes would have helped Dez in creativity and learning how to get open, which has translated to the NFL as a PR and WR early.
Thomas was more bound to a limited call of vertical routes and screens, thus not giving him much time to learn much else. Shows in his present deep routes, he learned his deep game early.
Bryant had to match what he was doing with legitimate routes, he was running them without knowing and committing them to memory. Thomas had to fill in the middle of his tree, already knowing his deep game and the short game.
Neither is exact comparison, but traits can been drawn from both in relation to Williams...
Thomas was more bound to a limited call of vertical routes and screens, thus not giving him much time to learn much else. Shows in his present deep routes, he learned his deep game early.
Bryant had to match what he was doing with legitimate routes, he was running them without knowing and committing them to memory. Thomas had to fill in the middle of his tree, already knowing his deep game and the short game.
Neither is exact comparison, but traits can been drawn from both in relation to Williams...
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:28 pm to UPT
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he's in the Julio Jones/AJ Green level of talent at the WR position.
I keep seeing people throw this out there, yet Williams wasn't ranked near as high as those two coming out of high school. He was ranked as the #19 WR in the Class of 2011, and 128th overall.
2011 Top 247
Top WRs for 2011
Were his grades and attitude THAT bad to have him ranked so low? He wasn't even the top WR in his own state, let alone the country (as people are now claiming). What's the deal here?
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:34 pm to TideSaint
quote:His grades weren't bad, it was that he didn't have credits from his first two years of HS because his HS was not accredited. He literally had no shot to qualify. There was no point in ranking him high when he didn't have enough grades to qualify.
Were his grades and attitude THAT bad to have him ranked so low?
I think the Julio comparison is a good one, along with Dez Bryant
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:36 pm to AMM AU9893
quote:How does that happen? Was it a small private school or something?
His grades weren't bad, it was that he didn't have credits from his first two years of HS because his HS was not accredited.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:39 pm to AMM AU9893
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His grades weren't bad, it was that he didn't have credits from his first two years of HS because his HS was not accredited.
Yeah, I'm gonna request a link on that one. I've read this guy's interviews and seen his tweets. He's not exactly a Rhodes Scholar.
From what I understand, based off recruiting analyst's articles, is that he had very bad grades and going to a JUCO was his only available option.
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There was no point in ranking him high when he didn't have enough grades to qualify.
Plenty of guys with grade issues have been ranked extremely high if they were talented enough to warrant it. Look at Sheldon Richardson for an example of this.
ETA: I'm not saying you are wrong or trying to flame. If it happens as you claim then that is an extremely fricked up situation. Like Alfy Hill fricked up.
This post was edited on 7/22/13 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:39 pm to TideSaint
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I keep seeing people throw this out there, yet Williams wasn't ranked near as high as those two coming out of high school. He was ranked as the #19 WR in the Class of 2011, and 128th overall.
I don't care what he was ranked. He's the best WR at this level in the last 5 years. The best out of LA in a long time.
I can't speak on his grades because I don't know anything about them but from what I've heard and seen, his attitude is THAT bad.
Believe me when I tell you that he's the best WR prospect at this level since AJ and Julio. He's a better WR RIGHT NOW than anyone on Auburns roster. There's really no weaknesses in his game. he's a very polished WR with very serious attitude issues. I don't see Auburn being the place for him at all, I think he needs WAY more structure than that if he's going to succeed.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:41 pm to UPT
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He's a better WR RIGHT NOW than anyone on Auburns roster.
You sure went out on a limb with this one.
Sorry Aubie brethren, not flaming. Just found that hilarious.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:43 pm to UPT
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Believe me when I tell you that he's the best WR prospect at this level since AJ and Julio. He's a better WR RIGHT NOW than anyone on Auburns roster. There's really no weaknesses in his game. he's a very polished WR with very serious attitude issues. I don't see Auburn being the place for him at all, I think he needs WAY more structure than that if he's going to succeed.
New regime who require accountability. It is a great place for him. Thanks for the sad story though it sounded good in your head I am sure.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:47 pm to TideSaint
quote:Here ya go
Yeah, I'm gonna request a link on that one
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He made that move so he could be eligible to play basketball. But that school, Liberty Christian Academy in LaPlace, La., was not accredited. Williams discovered that when he tried to transfer to East St. John High School in Reserve for his junior year.
“I went to a private school for basketball and it was not accredited,” Williams said. “I found that out when I tried to transfer over to a public school.”
At East St. John, he took up football as a junior and became a star receiver. But he knew already he would not be able to attend a four-year college after high school because he had not transferable credits from his two years at LCA.
quote:All of those guys had a shot with summer school and raising test scores. Williams literally had 2 years of HS when he graduated, so he had no shot no matter what he did
Plenty of guys with grade issues have been ranked extremely high if they were talented enough to warrant it. Look at Sheldon Richardson for an example of this.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:48 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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New regime who require accountability.
Remains to be seen wouldn't you say? He comes from the old regime and they certainly didn't require accountability.
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Thanks for the sad story though it sounded good in your head I am sure.
I'm not sure what this means. DW is an INCREDIBLE WR prospect who is fricked up in the head. This isn't internet conjecture. It's pretty much been confirmed by anyone who has ever been around him.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:48 pm to UPT
quote:I didn't realize our staff was already having so many structural problems. shite we're in trouble
I don't see Auburn being the place for him at all, I think he needs WAY more structure than that if he's going to succeed.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:50 pm to UPT
quote:And he was the only one to leave. He had problems with the lack of accountability and discipline, and did not see eye to eye with Gene. That's why he took a paycut to get out
Remains to be seen wouldn't you say? He comes from the old regime and they certainly didn't require accountability.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:50 pm to TideSaint
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You sure went out on a limb with this one. Sorry Aubie brethren, not flaming. Just found that hilarious.
No, not you, NEVER!!! Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:51 pm to AMM AU9893
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I didn't realize our staff was already having so many structural problems. shite we're in trouble
Let me say this; I don't think there is any program in the country that could provide DW with the structure that he would need to succeed, save maybe The Citadel or VMI.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:59 pm to AMM AU9893
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And he was the only one to leave. He had problems with the lack of accountability and discipline, and did not see eye to eye with Gene. That's why he took a paycut to get out
Wow.
I don't get into the whole Aubrun hate Iron Bowl thing because I'm from Louisiana and I never really understood it, but this is just complete bullshite and you know it.
I'm sure Gus could turn out to be a great strong leader with high discipline in his program but it remains to be seen.
He took the Ark State because he wanted to be a head coach and use it as a stepping stone and it was in his home state. To suggest that he left Auburn because of lack of discipline is straight up funny. That's why he went out and brought Michael Dyer in right?
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