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re: Has Brandon Hill flipped?
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:13 pm to engie
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:13 pm to engie
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Wait, so this agreement is now between him and the SEC coach -- not the SEC school or Hargrave? This story has changed 5 times already.
I have no idea what the agreement is. I know is its a SEC made agreement that started last year. No idea about any other details. I've heard of it a couple other time. You don't have to sign it is really all I know. As far as "why would he sign it". Like I said, if he knew exactly what it meant then he would not have committed to OM. So it's either bullshite or he didnt know exactly what it meant. One or the other.
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Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:15 pm to Whereisomaha
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If he knew what he was signing then he would have never committed to OM. Either the agreement is bullshite or he didnt know exactly what it meant. One of the two are true. I have no idea which, I'm just honoring the possibility that it could be true through logic. I don't know why people think Yancy can just get away with making shite up with McCready is competitinf against him. All he'd have to do is prove Yancy made that up and he would prove he's not reliable and makes shite up. Then Neil's membership would grow. It's fun to believe black helicopter shite but you have to use some common sense
So, assuming such a "rule" exists -- how in the hell could OM accept Hill's commitment without conferring with Alabama first to make sure he didn't sign such an agreement? If that was a new rule, you know that EVERY SEC school would be trying to use it with their sign and place guys. As such, it would be reasonably assumed that Hill signed such an agreement. How do you accept his commitment without exploring that avenue?
See, in believing this "rule", you indict your own coaching staff in their lack of due diligence.
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:17 pm to engie
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Why not just admit that the most likely possible scenario in all this -- is that Yancy is spewing bullshite to try to make his flock feel better about what is now decommitment #7? When he has loyal sheep that will take to the message boards and defend his assertion as fact -- as you are doing here -- without a single shred of proof that any of it is based in reality? Which one of those 7 was a "straight up" decommitment from Yancy's eyes? He shrouded every single one of them in circumstances to try to make your fanbase feel better about them.
Out of those decommitments the only two that OM fans are upset about is Hill and Allen. Yancy explained that Allen wanted to play closer to home. No spin. No crazy conspiracy. We lost Hill to the top program in the country. Why spin that? If you think it's because we are losing so many top end commits please tell me which commit we lost, besides those two, that we should be upset with. Honestly I want to you to answer that
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:18 pm to engie
Engie's logic to WIO
This post was edited on 12/25/12 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:19 pm to Whereisomaha
Try to land a bunch of big fish at a school like OM and you will lose some. Great that we may get some though. No shame in it or reason to spin it. I see both sides here...
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:20 pm to engie
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Same as the tidbit about expecting good news on Christmas. It's one thing to pm someone that or imply it on a message board. Something else entirely to "report" it for everyone to see and then try to bs your way out of it when it blows up in your face.
Everybody in the OM department is expecting a Christmas commitment. Not Yancy. Are you saying he just make that up? If not what are you saying?
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:22 pm to Whereisomaha
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Everybody in the OM department is expecting a Christmas commitment. Not Yancy. Are you saying he just make that up? If not what are you saying?
**Will Santa leave a present under the tree for the Rebel nation? I wouldn't bet against ole Santa- Yancy Porter
He is the one posting it so I assume he actually uses good "sources"
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:23 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Your one to talk about " sources" , Bundy 
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:25 pm to engie
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State fans hate him for this agenda-driven bs reporting -- the same way that OM fans hate Gene and Roseybaby. Difference is that almost all State fans are skeptical as hell about those two because of all the times they've been wrong and don't repeat what they say all around the interwebz as the gospel truth...
OM posters hate Gene because they think he can some how control how the players on scout are ranked. Besides that no one cares. Every state friend I have follows Yancy on twitter. Y'all are obsessed with the guy
This post was edited on 12/25/12 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:25 pm to hehatedrew
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Your one to talk about " sources" , Bundy
True, but I don't have people paying me to tell them what my sources are saying.
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:27 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Touché, and WIO also just made a good point. Im out. Peace
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:28 pm to hehatedrew
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Try to land a bunch of big fish at a school like OM and you will lose some. Great that we may get some though. No shame in it or reason to spin it. I see both sides here...
Agreed. Excellent post.
Freeze is doing a tremendous job with the true national blue-chips. No doubt about it. Excellent chance that he's about to land 3-4 guys on a level that has never even looked at a MS school before...
I think he's very foolishly accepted a few of his commitments though without doing due background diligence -- but this is only a problem if he doesn't learn from it and evolve to fix the problems.
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:28 pm to Whereisomaha
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Every state friend I have follows Yancy on twitter. Y'all are obsessed with the guy.
I don't follow that tool.
This post was edited on 12/25/12 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:30 pm to engie
Yep, people have to realize just how truly new he is to this game...
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:32 pm to Whereisomaha
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Every state friend I have follows Yancy on twitter. Y'all are obsessed with the guy
How does following him on twitter constitute obsession?
I also follow David Johnson, Chase Parham, Neal, Ross Bjork, Freeze, Jackson, Bianco, Godwin, Rounsville, and a handful of other OM people I'm sure that I am forgetting(hell I even follow RebelJacob). Does that make me obsessed with all of them? No. I try to get as much information as I can. In doing that, it's easy to see how Yancy/Johnson's spin is different than the others.
And to answer your other question -- when McReady reports it, I will believe it and let it go.
Why would McReady have to/want to go after Yancy over this? In doing that, it just makes him seem petty and ridiculous. You already know he will be "above" a personal attack -- even if he reports a very different story. This is much like Rosey and Gene's personal war against Paul Jones -- It drives more people away than it brings in.
What McReady has going for him is that he reports the truth without spinning it into a different story altogether. People that want that eventually end up on his site and cancel the others. People that want to have sunshine pumped all day every day will leave him for the others.
This post was edited on 12/25/12 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:33 pm to engie
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So, assuming such a "rule" exists -- how in the hell could OM accept Hill's commitment without conferring with Alabama first to make sure he didn't sign such an agreement? If that was a new rule, you know that EVERY SEC school would be trying to use it with their sign and place guys. As such, it would be reasonably assumed that Hill signed such an agreement. How do you accept his commitment without
exploring that avenue?
This is just my opinion here. Take it for what it's worth. I assumed that Bama wasn't that high on Hill. They weren't sure he'd make his grades and when he did they weren't sure if they wanted to take him so they slow played him. Freeze, knowing nothing about the agreement Hill signed, went after Hill and got him to commit. After further evaluating Hill and his class, Bama decided they wanted Hill. They tried to get him to commit on the OV and he didnt because OM tried to convince he could get out of the agreement. They waiting a few weeks to see if they could and released he couldn't so he committed back to Bama. That is just my opinion off of what I've heard from this recruitment over the past three weeks. No idea if its true.
As far as this "why doesn't every SEC school try and do this" I go back to what you said earlier, "why would a kid agree to something like that". As I've said countless times already, either this is bullshite or Hill didn't know what he was agreeing too. I do know such an agreement exists. Whether Hill signed it, I don't know. This entire argument is defending the possibility of it with the logical sense of why would Yancy make it up. You say it's to keep his flock happy. I argue that point with if he's making lies up they will he outed by his rivals. Neil doesn't have half the traffic Yancy does and he's love nothing more than to prove him a fraud
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:35 pm to engie
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Johnson's spin is different than the others.
Johnson doesn't spin, he deadpans
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:37 pm to engie
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McReady
I don't have an ex-girlfriend with this last name, but it's McCready.
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:38 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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**Will Santa leave a present under the tree for the Rebel nation? I wouldn't bet against ole Santa- Yancy Porter He is the one posting it so I assume he actually uses good "sources"
What are you talking about now Bundy? Everyone, Yancy, Neil, Chase, Ben, Jeff, Chuck, David... They all are expecting a Christmas commitment. Not just Yancy. This isn't blowing up in Yancy's face when Yancy or Scout was the last to report a Christmas commitment was coming
Posted on 12/25/12 at 11:41 pm to Whereisomaha
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Out of those decommitments the only two that OM fans are upset about is Hill and Allen.
I'd say they are upset about Kalio also- him being a legacy and all. So much to the fact that his recruitment is becoming legendary in Mississippi with the "secret-commit" feeling Yancy has people convinced about
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