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Going down to the wire, a lot of prospects are in flux ...
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:21 pm
With Early Signing Day creeping-up on us there are going to be a lot of players forced to rethink their choices as it comes down to the wire.
Just perusing the CBs ...
Bama is CBalling for a lot more prospects than they can take.
Georgia is CBalling for a lot more prospects than they can take.
Ohio State and FSU are CBalling for a lot more prospects than they can take.
There are a few others but those are the main four out of the Top 350 or so, all 4*s and above.
That means we could be in for a lot of surprises come Early Signing Day.
Who will benefit?
Just looking at the numbers there are not a lot of schollies left to give for a lot of schools.
Miami has some to give but they have plenty of CBs leaning their way.
SoCal ... no one cares. They have a ton of CBs leaning their way with plenty to give. They'll shoot way up the rankings by signing day.
Florida ... they are going to benefit the most. They're in on some players right now who are CBalling to Bama, FSU, Georgia, et al., who are going to be left out in the cold by those schools come signing day and Florida is going to try to move in and swoop some of them up as their second and third choices.
But who else will benefit?
It's pretty amazing how many CBs Bama has remaining, at least twenty, yet they only have 4 schollies left to give.
Just perusing the CBs ...
Bama is CBalling for a lot more prospects than they can take.
Georgia is CBalling for a lot more prospects than they can take.
Ohio State and FSU are CBalling for a lot more prospects than they can take.
There are a few others but those are the main four out of the Top 350 or so, all 4*s and above.
That means we could be in for a lot of surprises come Early Signing Day.
Who will benefit?
Just looking at the numbers there are not a lot of schollies left to give for a lot of schools.
Miami has some to give but they have plenty of CBs leaning their way.
SoCal ... no one cares. They have a ton of CBs leaning their way with plenty to give. They'll shoot way up the rankings by signing day.
Florida ... they are going to benefit the most. They're in on some players right now who are CBalling to Bama, FSU, Georgia, et al., who are going to be left out in the cold by those schools come signing day and Florida is going to try to move in and swoop some of them up as their second and third choices.
But who else will benefit?
It's pretty amazing how many CBs Bama has remaining, at least twenty, yet they only have 4 schollies left to give.
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 2:01 pm to scrooster
Bama gettin' erbody
Posted on 8/21/18 at 2:13 pm to scrooster
Even with a smaller class than Bama, UGA will finish with the #1 class once again.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 2:20 pm to scrooster
Scrooster I dont know their numbers but Tenn could benefit if they have te space. I also think Nebraska will emerge as a 2nd 3rd choice w/ a bunch of kids. Plenty of playing time, good facilities, new coach...jmho. Good question
Posted on 8/21/18 at 2:33 pm to DahlonegaDawg
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Even with a smaller class than Bama, UGA will finish with the #1 class once again.
Sure thing.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 2:34 pm to scrooster
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yet they only have 4 schollies left to give.
More like 7-8.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 2:36 pm to Bleudawg
I think you're right ... Tennessee is going to benefit some for sure. They've got six left to give on paper, not sure about transfers they'll have to apply to this class but if they've got six left to give and they are jot trying to fill holes with grad transfers or JuCos, meaning all six can go towards freshmen, then they'll definitely benefit.
Nebraska too in Florida it would appear. If he can reach down into Florida and use his connections there to pull in some late surprises who may be disappointed when Bama and FSU run out of schollies to give.
It does appear, based on CBs, that Georgia is going to finish #1.
SoCal will make a huge jump, likely into the Top 5, by signing day. They are sitting on a half dozen 5*s right now with 80% or more CBs trending their way.
Auburn could benefit some too. Actually, Auburn is a lot like UF right now, only in better shape. They're sitting at #11 with ten schollies yet to give and they're on some Final Five lists in Georgia and Florida.
Nebraska too in Florida it would appear. If he can reach down into Florida and use his connections there to pull in some late surprises who may be disappointed when Bama and FSU run out of schollies to give.
It does appear, based on CBs, that Georgia is going to finish #1.
SoCal will make a huge jump, likely into the Top 5, by signing day. They are sitting on a half dozen 5*s right now with 80% or more CBs trending their way.
Auburn could benefit some too. Actually, Auburn is a lot like UF right now, only in better shape. They're sitting at #11 with ten schollies yet to give and they're on some Final Five lists in Georgia and Florida.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 3:17 pm to scrooster
quote:Well obviously I would like UGA to finish #1 but I just dont think we have the numbers / slots to hold off Saban. I also think you guys are going to be really pleased. Its obvious CWM has generated new excitement around your program. While I teased you some about the car wash thing its an example of a program spending money. Your new / proposed weight room sounds 1st rate. The facility upgrades UGA has made have helped us for sure. See yall second week in Sept.
It does appear, based on CBs, that Georgia is going to finish #1.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 3:38 pm to scrooster
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It's pretty amazing how many CBs Bama has remaining, at least twenty, yet they only have 4 schollies left to give.
Bama might take up to 28 total. One of the 21 current commits isn't likely to stay in the class and maybe another. So, Bama might take 8-9 more. If things go well, most of those additions will be 5-star players. We'll see.
ETA: CBs aren't always a good indicator of where a recruit will end up.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 3:49 pm to DahlonegaDawg
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Even with a smaller class than Bama, UGA will finish with the #1 class once again.
Not so sure about that. Bama has almost all 5* left, and we don't. It will be very, very close, but I think Alabama will edge us out.
Bama is signing 26 from what I hear and we are taking about 24.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 3:55 pm to TidalSurge1
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Bama might take up to 28 total.
Wow. I had heard 26. You guys are crushing it if you take 28.
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ETA: CBs aren't always a good indicator of where a recruit will end up.
Not always. But it is more accurate than some guesses I've seen. Shoot, I think we were huge favorites to land DJ Daniel and we all know how that turned out. SC grabbed a good one from us.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:10 pm to DawgsLife
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Wow. I had heard 26. You guys are crushing it if you take 28.
I did the math for this in another thread before, but there's a 15-20% penalty for recruit #26 compared to #25... additionally, when you start factoring in guys ranked 200 as recruit #25 don't add a lot of base score value to begin with (less than 1 point IIRC) - let alone further down the boards... Ultimately, the majority of the recruiting ranking is made off of the top 20 guys in the class... The race for #1 will largely depend on what happens with the lower ranked recruits in the classes as rankings are updated, as well as who gets purged from existing commitments from either Bama or UGA (or anyone else for that matter). If Bama hits on all or nearly all of their top recruits and purges the bottom, they probably have enough to take the top spot, but we should give them a good run for it at the very least.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:16 pm to DawgsLife
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Wow. I had heard 26. You guys are crushing it if you take 28.
It'll likely be 26-28; not sure exactly yet.
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Not always. But it is more accurate than some guesses I've seen. Shoot, I think we were huge favorites to land DJ Daniel and we all know how that turned out. SC grabbed a good one from us.
Yeah, that's a good example of CBs being wrong, and those CB were right before the commitment. CBs months before a commitment are less likely to be correct.
Pretty good chances Bama and UGA finish with the #1 & #2 classes. But, the margin of error in recruit rankings is arguably greater than small differences in the scores between classes.
As long as a program consistently recruits in the top-10, fills needs well and develops players well, they can be a legit contender for conference and national titles. Clemson is a good example of it.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:40 pm to TidalSurge1
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But, the margin of error in recruit rankings is arguably greater than small differences in the scores between classes. If a program consistently recruits in the top-10, fills needs and develops players well, they can compete with any team and contend for conference titles and playoff berths. Clemson is a good example of that.
Clemson is more of an outlier than "proof". They seemingly have had a combination of:
1) great hits on the line of scrimmage... both highly rated guys and low guys who drastically out performed their ratings.
2) as far as I can tell they have a *very* low attrition rate... both guys failing to qualify and guys flopping out due to grades, problems, etc
3) a giant hit on the recruiting trail in Deshaun Watson... the kind of ring leader who other recruits wanted to build around
The other thing to look at is that in the past 2 years, they've had top 5 classes by the average recruit rankings... they just haven't been able to take a full class of 25... I can only assume due to point #2 above. If you don't have a leaky bucket, you don't have to worry as much about filling it up with quantity, just quality. Then take that a step further, and you have to go back to 2010 to find a year where they weren't top 3 in the ACC in recruiting (4th). National ranking is one thing, but getting to the CFP largely requires you to outperform your conference. Making sure that you're consistently a top 1-3 in the conference in talent acquisition is a good start.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 5:09 pm to scrooster
You mean USC, not SoCal.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 5:12 pm to TouchdownToCauseHell
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You mean USC, not SoCal.
This is asinine... They *are* SoCal... particularly when a South Carolina fan is referring to them... no reason for him to initiate confusion for no reason. You're quickly proving to be a terrible poster... perhaps you may change but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 5:15 pm to fibonaccisquared
Yeah you can argue that until your blue in the face but when someone says “USC” I gaurantee you think of SCw not South Carolina.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 5:31 pm to fibonaccisquared
No, Southern Cal is USC. That's nationally known. Theres no confusion when you say USC. South Carolina is abbreviated as SCAR
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:16 pm to TouchdownToCauseHell
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TouchdownToCauseHell
So, I guess it's just outta your wheelhouse to play nice on the recruiting board. You're bound and determined to try to trash this place with your trolling.
: sighhhhhhhhhh :
This is why we can't have nice things.
RA'd ... again.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:23 pm to fibonaccisquared
You make a good point I begrudgingly have to agree with Fib. Clemson has had some really good production out of some of their 3*s, Vic Beasley is one of my favorites, and they've had really good chemistry plus they don't process many ... it's a good point you make.
The thing about Bama though, dumping some of their lower rated players currently on their commitment list to make room for some high 4s and 5s committing late ... and then signing 28 when everyone is supposed to be limited to 25 per class. I don't know how that works but is reads fishy.
I guess when it's Bama it doesn't matter, it will not hurt their rep until it hurts their rep when it comes to processing players that haven't even signed yet. How they are getting to sign 28 ... I guess I'm behind the times. I thought 25 was the hard limit per class and they were not even letting you place any on the last class or fill processed openings with new players.
The thing about Bama though, dumping some of their lower rated players currently on their commitment list to make room for some high 4s and 5s committing late ... and then signing 28 when everyone is supposed to be limited to 25 per class. I don't know how that works but is reads fishy.
I guess when it's Bama it doesn't matter, it will not hurt their rep until it hurts their rep when it comes to processing players that haven't even signed yet. How they are getting to sign 28 ... I guess I'm behind the times. I thought 25 was the hard limit per class and they were not even letting you place any on the last class or fill processed openings with new players.
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