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re: Georgia now has the #1 football recruiting classes in 2018 and 2019 and....

Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:51 pm to
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To all of the delusional UGA fans,


I literally said, and I quote:

''I'm not going to say Georgia is paying their players, but I will say that it has been highly suspicious.

Nothing beyond that. It wouldn't shock me if they weren't paying their players, but it also wouldn't shock me if they were.''

And the only thing they can talk about is the opposite.

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It is really hilarious to watch rival fans construct elaborate narratives about how we are cheating so brazenly it would make Ole Miss blush.


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Now UGA has a top class and it's unthinkable? Yeah ok.


Crow literally the only one who seemed to understand what I was saying.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89629 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:51 pm to
These numbers were in August of 2015, so the 16/17 seasons are not taken into account (in other words our recent SEC title is not factored):

All time wins (place nationally)
777 Georgia (14)
734 Auburn (19)

All time win percentage
Georgia - .648
Auburn - .630

All Time SEC Titles
Georgia - 12 [edit: now 13]
Auburn - 8

Bowl Game Appearances
Georgia - 50
Auburn - 38

Bowl game wins
Georgia - 28
Auburn - 22

"Claimed" national titles
Georgia - 2
Auburn - 2


So please share with us..what makes AU a better program than UGA?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89629 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:52 pm to
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I just did. I showed you the AP rankings,


Right, you showed me a poll that takes nothing into account other than themselves. Maybe I can dig up the all time colley matrix standings and see what that says, that'd be just as relevant right?
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:04 pm to
That’s awesome bro, but if I’m not mistaken it’s 2018 and January right? Pretty early to start printing your t-shirts.
Posted by sportsfanatic1
Member since Dec 2017
659 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:54 pm to
Lol at finally? Georgia kept Vince Dooley around for 2O years as either head coach or athletic director even after a UGA professor accused him of being a cheater
Posted by sportsfanatic1
Member since Dec 2017
659 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:04 pm to
I think Georgia is cheating. They are in position to possibly have a better recruiting class than Nick Saban has ever had, than Urban Meyer has ever had, and that Pete Carrol ever had. All this after winning their first conference championship in a decade and being in contention for a national championship going into January for the first time in 3.5 decades
Posted by Jazzbo Depew
Bug Tussle
Member since Dec 2017
1765 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:17 pm to
No, no, just no. Where would Kirby learn to cheat ?
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:22 pm to
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sportsfanatic1


Phan is mad that UGA is better than Auburn at the game they invented.

In other news, water remains wet and the sun is expected to set around 5:30PM
Posted by sportsfanatic1
Member since Dec 2017
659 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:26 pm to
Just think about this for a moment. We are not talking about just this year.

Georgia could finish with a better class than Nick Saban ever has, that Urban Meyer ever has, and that Pete Carrol ever has, with a far less accomplished coach

We are talking Ole Miss level on the obvious cheating meter
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I literally said, and I quote:

''I'm not going to say Georgia is paying their players, but I will say that it has been highly suspicious.

Nothing beyond that. It wouldn't shock me if they weren't paying their players, but it also wouldn't shock me if they were.''

And the only thing they can talk about is the opposite.


They may have replied "to you" but you weren't the only one who made comments regarding paying players. Given that some of the comments were explicitly quoting "naive or delusional", it's safe to assume they were also responding to atlgator's comments as well... if not also others.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43151 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:48 pm to
1. They were both ready, but they wanted to come back and have a better season and improve their draft stock.

2. I have spoken with a family member and some of his coaches and after watching some of their practices he feels he can come in and have a great shot at starting next year.

3. White can come in immediately and be the #2 in our rotation. Swift is the only one who is more talented at this point.

4. Us paying players is not anything new. Just like any every other program in America. Had we landed 5 stars from all over the country it might seem fishy, but we landed 4 from Ga, one from NC that we had been in great shape for since his freshmen year, and one that we took advantage of because of the turmoil at UT.

We've finally closed the border and it looks fishy to outsiders
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:54 pm to
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Georgia could finish with a better class than Nick Saban ever has, that Urban Meyer ever has, and that Pete Carrol ever has, with a far less accomplished coach


Of this class, 13 guys are from GA and 8 guys are from NC, SC, TN, and FL which UGA has historically always done very well in.

The only outliers are from OK and IL, the former being a UGA legacy and the latter having stated well before Fields was committed that he would likely follow and play wherever Fields went.

So, there is nobody in our class without precedent or reason especially given UGA's recent success on the field.

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We are talking Ole Miss level on the obvious cheating meter

The Ole Miss class that got them in trouble is nowhere fricking close to UGA's current class.

Sorry but UGA is simply, finally doing what it has been in position to do for some time now.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39791 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:55 pm to
Phanatic is scared shitless of the monster awakening.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:12 pm to
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1. Michel and Chubb were both NFL ready last year, but they both decided to come back for their senior year.


NFL ready doesn't mean they're in prime position for the draft. Hell, Trent Thompson is NFL ready now but knows that another year to get fully healthy and demonstrate what he can do would be to his advantage. Remember, both Chubb and Michel had injury issues coming into this year that were hanging over them, nevermind that both come from families that place an extremely high value on education. They're both easily in better positions heading into 2018 than they were 2017. It was a calculated gamble that has paid off big for both players.

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They get the #1 QB who is basically going to be waiting behind a Freshman for several years, only getting package looks at best.


Whole lot of assumptions and opinion going on here. UGA has 2 quarterbacks on scholarship right now including Eason. Fields is going to play a good amount as a true freshman be it in a package, as a backup, or as the starter. He chose UGA based on the fact that his skill set and talent level is going to give him a good shot at the starting spot in the Spring and Summer.

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3. They get the #1 and #3 RB when they already have 3 Freshmen sharing touches this year -- so their best case scenario is that they're basically fighting over 4th string. Herrien and Hollyfield will be Juniors next year, Swift will be a Sophomore.


Herrien will always be 3rd or 4th on the depth chart, which isn't a bad thing at UGA since he will still get some touches late in games. Holyfield is much the same but will also see touches on KR and at FB. Not unlikely that one decides to transfer before or after the Summer.

White and Cook are likely to be your 2nd and 3rd string backs behind Swift. This isn't anything new at UGA; we've always stockpiled talented RBs and sold them on the model that split carries means more rest for a long season and a 3-4 year college career.


Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:18 pm to
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Georgia could finish with a better class than Nick Saban ever has, that Urban Meyer ever has, and that Pete Carrol ever has, with a far less accomplished coach

We are talking Ole Miss level on the obvious cheating meter


Georgia has always recruited well, but this class is different. Notice how the recruiting has picked up when the boosters have had something to really believe in, or something to invest in.

It’s not that it’s only football recruiting. Georgia basketball signed two top 50 overall players. I mean, come on. That doesn’t happen at UGA in basketball. It’s clear what’s happening.

And this has nothing to do with other big time programs. Yes, all big time programs cheat. But they all don’t have such a giant improvement in a cycle that it’s obvious that something fishy is going on. It’s a special class for UGA, and I think it’s clear that this is partially due to a great season for UGA. But if you don’t think there’s some big money/benefits being given to recruits then you’re in complete denial. It’s not a criticism or a troll, it’s what is happening. There’s no reason to be in denial of it.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:35 pm to
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Georgia has always recruited well, but this class is different. Notice how the recruiting has picked up when the boosters have had something to really believe in, or something to invest in.


Or notice how the recruiting has picked up when the recruits have had something to really believe in? I mean y'all act as if UGA isn't wrapping up it's most dominant, successful season in the modern era with a 2nd year coach from the Saban tree and the best recruiting staff we've ever had at one time.

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It’s not that it’s only football recruiting. Georgia basketball signed two top 50 overall players. I mean, come on. That doesn’t happen at UGA in basketball. It’s clear what’s happening.

Yeah: Jonas Hayes has taken over recruiting for basketball (finally) and the past three years have seen us slowly stockpile a decent bench that has seen us become more consistently competitive in the conference. Coupled with a nice interior renovation of Stegeman that has it looking like a legitimate basketball arena, the results aren't that shocking (let's also not forget that a #1 ranking with 2 commits for 2019 is fun on paper but won't hold up for long).

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:43 pm to
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Georgia has always recruited well, but this class is different. Notice how the recruiting has picked up when the boosters have had something to really believe in, or something to invest in.



This is very bizarre, and for me is the most damning part. I won't hold my breath, but I also will be keeping a close eye on Juniors this year.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39791 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:46 pm to
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But they all don’t have such a giant improvement


It's not a giant improvement. We had the 3 class last year.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:47 pm to
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It's not a giant improvement. We had the 3 class last year.


That is not helping the optics, though, man.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:49 pm to
Georgia starts doing what everyone has always said it should be doing and the Florida conspiracy theorists begin to emerge in full force

I'll break it down for you:

Roquan Smith is going to the draft. Wh? Because he's a top 10 pick

Trent Thompson, Jonathan Ledbetter, Terry Godwin, Natrez Patrick, and Lamont Gaillard will all return. Why? Because they all could use one more year to improve their draft stock and earn their degrees.

Deandre Baker may or may not return. Why? Because he quietly had a very good year and could decide that he isn't getting any better next year.

You don't have a bunch of Juniors like last year with Zo, Bellamy, Chubb, and Michel that all fit into that will they or won't they category. So if that's what you're basing all of this off, you'll probably have to wait until 2019 to confirm your theory.
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