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re: Fields vs Lawrence

Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by E.Hubble
Athens
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:27 pm to
Id rather have the 5star freshman qb at clemson that hasn't played a snap over the 5star freshman qb at Georgia who hasn't played a snap
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:58 pm to
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The term “running QB” with Fields does him a disservice. Fields is NFL Caliber even without his great wheels.


Harrison's talent around him was pretty terrible so it will be interesting to see if he will learn to trust his line and receivers and not want to take off running as his first instinct. He and his dad claim he wants to be a throwing first QB but it's hard to coach out years of instinct taking over. Also, if not for his legs Fields would have been nowhere near the prospect he was. Not that that's a bad thing but it's a fact.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:05 pm to
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Also, if not for his legs Fields would have been nowhere near the prospect he was.


Disagree. He owned the opening, and that’s passing only.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2041 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:17 pm to
Fields ran a lot more his senior year than he did his junior year - out of necessity. Harrison’s OLine was small. UGA’s average is almost 330lbs - Fields will be just fine.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:25 pm to
My main point is Fields is superior in every category. Lawrence also played a lower level of competition while Fields played at the highest level.

I like Trevor Lawrence- he is damn good - Fields is better.
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:51 pm to
I’ll take a dual threat QB against Bama vs. a Pocket Passer. Does that answer your question?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:52 am to
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My main point is Fields is superior in every category.

Maybe, but that is based upon camps and games against high school kids. jacob eason was superior in every way to almost every other QB when we signed him. I think he will still be excellent, but sometimes camps and high school games don't match up.

Again, I would rather have Fields, but I think it is a bit premature to say that Fields is superior in every category.

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Lawrence also played a lower level of competition while Fields played at the highest level.
You do know that Herschel Walker came out of the smallest classification in Georgia, right. that does not always mean a whole lot. I do agree it does more often than not, but I think Lawrence is as proven
a commodity as Fields.

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I like Trevor Lawrence- he is damn good - Fields is better.
Maybe. Maybe not. Why can't we just wait and see?

I get the feeling you think I am talking bad about Fields. I'm not. Both players, imo, will be great. I just don't know which is going to be better.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:42 am to
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jacob eason was superior in every way to almost every other QB when we signed him


He really wasn’t. Looked like crap in army game. Didn’t dominate camp season either.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:08 am to
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He really wasn’t. Looked like crap in army game. Didn’t dominate camp season either.


The scouts had him superior in almost every way....or at least in every way they have guessed on Lawrence and Fields.

But that is the point I am trying to make to LongDawg.

Almost every expert rated Lawrence with the edge, whether we agree with them or not. They are both good, but nobody knows who is the better of the two, or if somebody else turns out to be better.

It's just too early to crown one superior over the other right now.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2041 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:34 am to
Lawrence was a household name for a longer period of time because he basically started his Freshman year and dominated a lower level of competition.

Fields best offer going into his junior year was Mercer. As the article stated, he grew much later while Lawrence was 6’5” as a Freshman.

As to your “experts” rankings - Fields had overtaken Trevor Lawrence and was ranked #1 overall until he got injured and then most of the rankings shifted back to Lawrence - not because of play on the field - because of injury.

Lawrence does have a clearer path to starting job as Kelly Bryant’s play fell off cliff last month of season. He is a Senior and on his way out - if it’s close, Dabo might go ahead and anoint the Freshman. On the other side, Fields outplayed Fromm in Spring game(I know, just a practice and Fields vs #2 defense). Fromm is a rising Sophomore and played great in playoffs.

Just saying in advance if Lawrence grabs starting job earlier, don’t think it means a damn thing in this comparison.

It will play out over 3-4years but my money is on Fields to be the better player.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:39 am to
Good article! Thanks for sharing!
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:57 am to
Perfect timing on that article.

Clemson and Georgia are both blessed to have these kids. They both seem to be willing to work, aren't afraid of competition, and neither appears to have the knucklehead gene.
I'm happy with how it worked out.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2041 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Perfect timing on that article.

Clemson and Georgia are both blessed to have these kids. They both seem to be willing to work, aren't afraid of competition, and neither appears to have the knucklehead gene.
I'm happy with how it worked out.



Agreed and I wouldn't bet against either of them. If Lawrence would have taken UGA's offer instead of Clemson's, I would be very excited about him as well.

I just like Fields a little better because I believe he has all the upside of Lawrence on passing skills while also being a serious running threat that the Dawgs haven't had in over 10yrs since Shockley. The best way to beat Bama is a dual threat QB - when you are one-dimensional or predictable, a Saban-led Bama defense will eat the opposing college offense alive. Just look no further than the two Bama/Clemson Nattys - Bama/Saban/Kirby had no answer for DeShaun Watson.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Disagree. He owned the opening, and that’s passing only.



That's fine but you're wrong. Also, Sean White killed it at The Opening.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Fields played at the highest level.


Not true.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:32 pm to
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That's fine but you're wrong. Also, Sean White killed it at The Opening.


Justin Fields and Sean White are light years apart. In every single way, Fields is far superior.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32738 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:34 pm to
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That's fine but you're wrong.

Wrong about what?
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:48 pm to
Justin Fields being a top 1 or 2 player in the country if you take his legs out of the equation.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2041 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Justin Fields being a top 1 or 2 player in the country if you take his legs out of the equation.




Fields is a better PASSER than Lawrence who finished #1 because Fields was injured. Of course he would still be ranked that high.

Someone is butthurt about losing out on him.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 2:36 pm
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