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re: California Top 25 Recruits
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:50 pm to Bamadog75
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:50 pm to Bamadog75
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What are you smoking? There's been many years Saban only recruited five or six players from Alabama in a recruiting cycle. He always tried to get the best players period .
That's what I meant, doofus. But for years Alabama fans have touted that he recruits nationwide. (Rightfully so) Some of you Alabama fans need to get your panties out of a wad. quote:
All you people saying CKD can't recruit are fooling yourself,
Show me where I have said this. Just once. I've never said it. You gusy are letting a few trolls get you tied up in knots.
It's hard to argue with Saban's methods. He got the players he wanted more often than not and for years out recruited everybody.
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:54 pm to bamameister
Some of Alabama, and by extension Deboer's success is coming off of the Alabama brand. It is a carry over of the Saban years. if DeBoer can continue to win at a high rate, then DeBoer will continue to pull in great classes. If he settles in with 2-4 losses a year, then some of that recruiting will dry up.
I've never said DeBoer can't recruit. But if you want to hang your hat on this year, then you might get disappointed. All I am saying is give it a couple of years before you crown him or bury him.
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:57 pm to phaz
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Offord is the only one Deboer has recruited seriously
They all had offers.
You guys just can't seem to accept that nobody (Not even Saban) gets every recruit they want.
Besides...the post I responded to say Alabama had not lost any recruits to Auburn or anybody else. If you admit Alabama wanted Offord then my statement was correct. Never mind anybody else.
Posted on 7/4/24 at 2:00 pm to Bear88
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Since he is doing so well this year( when most said he wouldn’t) yea let’s move it down the road a few years
Again. I never said he couldn't recruit. If you can show one post where i said that, then show it to me.
Anybody that wants to crown any coach as proven after one year should remember Malzahn and a host of other coaches. I would always say wait for a couple of years...just like many Alabama fans said it about Kirby Smart. Now wait and see doesn't apply? Why?
Posted on 7/4/24 at 2:37 pm to DawgsLife
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Offord
He hates Saban. He wasn't even considering us until DeBoer took over. His recruitment isn't finished.
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Faulk
His brother plays for Auburn.
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Grady
We picked up two better OLBs in Merritt and Hill.
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Crawford
He's the 14th highest ranked player in the state of Alabama.
Posted on 7/4/24 at 2:50 pm to TideSaint
quote:Which is irrelevant to what was posted. I merely pointed out that Alabama had lost 1 or more recruits that they wanted. I don't understand why this is even an issue for Alabama fans. Every team in the country loses recruits they wanted.
He hates Saban. He wasn't even considering us until DeBoer took over. His recruitment isn't finished.
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His brother plays for Auburn.
So? Etienne's brother played for LSU and then he went to Florida and now Georgia.
quote:Cool.
We picked up two better OLBs in Merritt and Hill.
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He's the 14th highest ranked player in the state of Alabama.
So?
Dude. You really want to argue that Alabama has not lost a player they have wanted? Seriously? You all are looking dumb by saying Alabama has not. Everybody does. I can name some that Georgia has lost, but in your mind Alabama gets every single player they want?
There can be dozens of reasons why a player chooses a school other than any of our favorite schools. It happens.
Posted on 7/4/24 at 2:56 pm to DawgsLife
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I merely pointed out that Alabama had lost 1 or more recruits that they wanted.
Well no shite. Alabama, and every other school, loses recruits they want. I'm sure most coaches would kill to sign 35 players in each class instead of 25.
Offord wouldn't even visit Alabama with Saban in charge.
You keep implying DeBoer is going to do much worse recruiting than Saban when he's proving he can do it just as well.
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So? Etienne's brother played for LSU and then he went to Florida and now Georgia.
Etienne's brother played at Clemson, not LSU.
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Dude. You really want to argue that Alabama has not lost a player they have wanted? Seriously? You all are looking dumb by saying Alabama has not. Everybody does. I can name some that Georgia has lost, but in your mind Alabama gets every single player they want?
Who the frick said this?
Are you retarded?
You listed 4 players in the post I replied to. I told you why they weren't committed to Alabama.
You're twisting yourself into knots making stupid arse assumptions.
Posted on 7/4/24 at 5:32 pm to DawgsLife
Your basically saying Deboer is recruiting off of Saban/ Alabama's name. That if he loses 2-4 games a year then his classes will fall off. No shite Sherlock, same for Kirby, day ,sark and any other top coach. Deboer is a great x's and o' s coach if he has Alabama talent he will win . If he wins he can recruit. He's a great person too so most parents are falling in love with him first and foremost, so I don't see any fall off. He won't win the natty every year but nobody expects him to. If he stays a bama for 10 -15 years and wins a couple he will be glorified. Nobody will do what Saban has done again.
Posted on 7/4/24 at 8:25 pm to TideSaint
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Well no shite. Alabama, and every other school, loses recruits they want. I'm sure most coaches would kill to sign 35 players in each class instead of 25.
Exactly. So why are you so upset when I corrected the ALABAMA poster that said ALABAMA had not?
Can any of you guys read? Anyone? And now you are on here arguing with me when I said Alabama had lost 1 or more recruits that they wanted.
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Etienne's brother played at Clemson, not LSU.
You're right. My bad. I knew something was off when I typed it...but my point still stands, does it not? Just because a brother plays for a team does not make it a slam dunk he will follow in the older brother's footsteps.
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Who the frick said this?
Are you retarded?
Phaz...an ALABAMA fan said this:Who has Alabama pursued instate have they lost to Freeze or anyone? I answered with 4 players and you felt some kind of urge to attack me. Dude. Do better.
Again. Can you read? All you had to do was see who I was responding to. That's it. And you couldn't even do that. And you asked if I was retarded?
quote:Not at all. if you had read the post I was responding to, you would not have done the exact thing you are accusing me of. Reading. DO IT.
You're twisting yourself into knots making stupid arse assumptions.
Posted on 7/4/24 at 9:18 pm to Bamadog75
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Your basically saying Deboer is recruiting off of Saban/ Alabama's name.
To a small degree....yes. When you have had the success Alabama has had, it carries over a bit. That said, if DeBoer was a bad recruiter (Like i have seen some trolls claim) the class would not hold up as well as it has. DeBoer won't (probably) be as good of a recruiter as Saban, but he obviously is a good recruiter.
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That if he loses 2-4 games a year then his classes will fall off. No shite Sherlock, same for Kirby, day ,sark and any other top coach.
Yes. So what is your point? Did you come on here to say that my analysis is correct and obvious? Because I am not the one arguing otherwise. It is some Alabama fans who are doing that.
Why do so many Alabama posters not know how to read a thread? You just repeated what I said and you seem upset with it.
You guys are nuts.
Posted on 7/4/24 at 9:30 pm to DawgsLife
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Phaz...an ALABAMA fan said this:Who has Alabama pursued instate have they lost to Freeze or anyone? I answered with 4 players and you felt some kind of urge to attack me. Dude. Do better.
You can't be dumb enough to believe every offer is a committable offer, right?
Right?
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Not at all. if you had read the post I was responding to, you would not have done the exact thing you are accusing me of. Reading. DO IT.
What did he say that was incorrect? You don't know who the frick is at the top, middle or bottom of Alabama's board. No fricking clue, whatsoever.
An offer from Alabama under Saban does not mean a kid has an offer from Alabama under DeBoer.
Kirby has offered 51 wide receivers in the Class of 2025. Fifty-one. One of them is Santonyo Isaac. He is committed to UCF. Did he choose UCF over Georgia? Hell fricking no.
Get your head out of your stupid fricking arse. DO IT.
This post was edited on 7/4/24 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:15 am to Marktastic86
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They were fricked when they hired Lincoln "one or two stops on defense per game is enough" Riley.
They were screwed when college football apathy set in with their alumni.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:22 am to DawgsLife
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Phaz...an ALABAMA fan said this:Who has Alabama pursued instate have they lost to Freeze or anyone? I answered with 4 players and you felt some kind of urge to attack me. Dude. Do better.
Regardless of what you choose to believe, Deboer Alabama pursued one of those players you listed, and he likely will attend OSU, BUT it is not over and we will continue to pursue.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:20 am to TideSaint
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You can't be dumb enough to believe every offer is a committable offer, right?
Right?
So, now you want to argue that a 5* CB (Offord) was not committable?
Dude. If you can believe that Offard's offer was committable, then why are you arguing? The post I responded to asked someone to name a recruit that Alabama had missed on. I did. Now you want to argue. quote:But you know Alabama's board?
What did he say that was incorrect? You don't know who the frick is at the top, middle or bottom of Alabama's board. No fricking clue, whatsoever.
Ok. Then tell me that Alabama's offer to Offard was not committable. Go ahead.
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Get your head out of your stupid fricking arse. DO IT.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:22 am to phaz
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Regardless of what you choose to believe, Deboer Alabama pursued one of those players you listed, and he likely will attend OSU, BUT it is not over and we will continue to pursue.
And here was your statement:
Who has Alabama pursued instate have they lost to Freeze or anyone?
If I named one, then I was correct.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:15 am to Windy City
Not a fan of USC, but Riley is a good recruiter and LA makes them a national recruit destination.
Rivals has 8 players committed to USC from SEC states. 5 are 4*’s and 5* QB Julian Lewis ranked #1 overall by Rivals and #9 by 247 composite. Lewis is from Carralton, GA.
In the last 2 years they have 10 transfers from SEC schools. 6 were 4* transfers and 2 other kids were 4* out of high school.
They have a lot of NIL money and LA will always recruit
Rivals has 8 players committed to USC from SEC states. 5 are 4*’s and 5* QB Julian Lewis ranked #1 overall by Rivals and #9 by 247 composite. Lewis is from Carralton, GA.
In the last 2 years they have 10 transfers from SEC schools. 6 were 4* transfers and 2 other kids were 4* out of high school.
They have a lot of NIL money and LA will always recruit
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:45 am to DawgsLife
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If I named one, then I was correct.
You originally said
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But, by the same token, it is silly to say that Alabama did not go after:
Offord
Faulk
Grady
Crawford
to name a few. Looks like Fegans may be headed to Auburn, too.
Saying we offered your list, so you are wrong
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 8:47 am
Posted on 7/5/24 at 9:25 am to DawgsLife
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Ok. Then tell me that Alabama's offer to Offard was not committable. Go ahead.
Jesus Christ. You want to accuse other people of not reading, but I literally posted this about Offord, ON THIS frickING PAGE NO LESS:
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He hates Saban. He wasn't even considering us until DeBoer took over. His recruitment isn't finished.
At which stage of that post does your mush brain comprehend that Offord didn't have a committable offer?
fricking hell.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 9:36 am to Windy City
I'm just gonna speculate here: maybe California players are deciding they'd rather acclimate their bodies to practicing and playing in similar weather conditions, as opposed to practicing and acclimating their bodies to friendly California weather, then playing in Midwestern conditions.
Sure, they could play at a real big 10 school and get used to that weather, but the SEC drafts better.
Sure, they could play at a real big 10 school and get used to that weather, but the SEC drafts better.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:36 am to phaz
Na'eem Offord Ranked #7 in the country
Going to OSU
Going to OSU
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