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Posted on 10/31/12 at 2:35 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 5:08 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Bobby Petrino can't recruit.
Doesn't need to
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:02 pm to blzr
why do you say this?
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:54 pm to blzr
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Doesn't need to
So he'll continue to be owned by Nick Saban, when he trots horrific defenses out there?
Posted on 11/1/12 at 8:35 am to TTsTowel
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Petrino may not be the best recruiter, but he's a damn good coach, and it's way easier to recruit at Auburn vs Arky. Plus, he'll have some athletes, on both sides of the ball, that could be stars.
Bobby Petrino couldn't land the top players in Arkansas when he was the only top tier university in the State. It doesn't get much easier to recruit than being the only rodeo in town.
Posted on 11/1/12 at 8:43 am to Tusc
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Bobby Petrino couldn't land the top players in Arkansas when he was the only top tier university in the State. It doesn't get much easier to recruit than being the only rodeo in town.
You dont know much about recruiting then. Arky is not a talent rich state as Alabama, Louisiana, Florida, and Georgia. Auburn is able to recruit in all of these states. Arky on the other hand has a hard time going out of state to land anybody. Auburn is located great geographically, compared to Arkansas, FACT.
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Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:21 am to AUtigerNOLA
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You dont know much about recruiting then. Arky is not a talent rich state as Alabama, Louisiana, Florida, and Georgia. Auburn is able to recruit in all of these states. Arky on the other hand has a hard time going out of state to land anybody. Auburn is located great geographically, compared to Arkansas, FACT.
Can you read?
Of course Auburn has more natural geographical areas to recruit, but they also battle with Alabama/Georgia/Florida for those recruits. The recruiting area is absolutely irrelevant to what I posted.
Arkansas did have some very highly rated players come out of Arkansas during his tenure, and he missed on a large number of them. Recruiting might be easier at Auburn, but Bobby Petrino is not a good recruiter. FACT
Posted on 11/1/12 at 10:27 am to Tusc
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Can you read?
Of course Auburn has more natural geographical areas to recruit, but they also battle with Alabama/Georgia/Florida for those recruits. The recruiting area is absolutely irrelevant to what I posted.
I sure can. How is it irrelevant? Bobby did land most of the recruits in Arky. What top recruits did he not besides the ones that went to Auburn? Petrino would have an easier time recruiting at Auburn than Arky. FACT, that was the whole point of my post. Can YOU read?
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Posted on 11/1/12 at 12:36 pm to Titus Pullo
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Dee Liner
That kid needs the discipline that Coach Saban can provide more than most players.
He'd stay in trouble and fail big time at an undisciplined school. He needs Bama and Saban much more than Bama needs him.
He'll be lucky if Saban decides to help him become a man of character.
Posted on 11/1/12 at 1:25 pm to Tusc
quote:That's OK, being at Auburn would make it a whole lot easier to recruit. BTW, if you look at it, do you want to guess why he let some of the top talent out of state? For 1, Gus Malzahn was at Auburn. And 2, him letting some of those players go didn't hurt him.
Bobby Petrino couldn't land the top players in Arkansas when he was the only top tier university in the State. It doesn't get much easier to recruit than being the only rodeo in town.
2008 Class: Signed 14 or the top 15.
2009 Class: Miss on the #3 player in Derek Johnson who later signed with Texas. Signed 5/10 of the top players.
2010 Class: Missed on the #1 player in Mike Dyer who later signed with Auburn, and the #11 player in Dakota Mosely who later signed with Auburn. Dyer was suspended, then transferred to Arky State, where he was later kicked off the team. Mosely robbed someone, with the other 3 morons, and is playing at some JuCo last thing I checked.
2011 Class: Missed on the #1 player in Kiehl Frazier who later signed with Auburn (one of the biggest busts in recent history). Landed 7/10 of the top players.
2012 Class: Missed on the #1 player in Zac Brooks who later signed with Clemson. The state didn't even have many other talented players to lose in this class.
If you see the trend, when he lost player at Arky, it was to bigger and better programs. There's so much talent spread around Georgia, Florida, and Alabama he would be able to grab a lot of the players he wants. Plus, I have to mention this again, he didn't "miss" on Mike Dyer, Kiehl Frazier, and Dakota Mosley. I bet Arky fans are glad not to have them around.
Posted on 11/1/12 at 3:46 pm to AUtigerNOLA
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I sure can. How is it irrelevant? Bobby did land most of the recruits in Arky. What top recruits did he not besides the ones that went to Auburn? Petrino would have an easier time recruiting at Auburn than Arky. FACT, that was the whole point of my post. Can YOU read?
It's irrelevant because the point of my post, to which you replied, was that Petrino is not a good recruiter.
Would he be a better recruiter at Auburn than he was at Arkansas? More than likely so, as nobody would deny that it is easier to recruit to Auburn than Arkansas. That as an argument to my post is irrelevant.
Jim Grobe is not a good recruiter. If Auburn hired him, it would be easier on him to recruit to Auburn than it is at Wake Forest, but it's irrelevant to his skills.
Posted on 11/1/12 at 4:05 pm to TTsTowel
I don't think the argument is the talent bases between Auburn and Arkansas. It's the fact that Bobby Petrino struggles in recruiting, for whatever reasons. Houston Nutt landed top 25 classes while he was there (he just didn't develop it very well), but Pentrino failed to produce more than one top 25 class.
Would Petrnio recruit better at AU? I think he certainly would, but he would have more access to talent. But it wouldn't be at the level, at least in my opinion, that Nick Saban, Will Muschamp, and Mark Richt are currently at. And considering that's directly in AU's recruiting footprint it wouldn't be too great of an outlook on the surface.
Would Petrnio recruit better at AU? I think he certainly would, but he would have more access to talent. But it wouldn't be at the level, at least in my opinion, that Nick Saban, Will Muschamp, and Mark Richt are currently at. And considering that's directly in AU's recruiting footprint it wouldn't be too great of an outlook on the surface.
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