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re: 5 star Owen Pappoe committed to AU 5/1/18
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:19 am to Rhymenoceros
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:19 am to Rhymenoceros
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Every coach does it - not every one leaks it to Gary Danielson. Go and listen to the way Danielson phrased it - Kirby was trying to send some message.
Good. He should do whatever he thinks will help UGA win. If that involves bringing more attention to an officiating issue, he should do that.
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I highly doubt he was in a mood to cracking zingers after getting skull-dragged upo and down the field that night.
That's actually exactly the time I usually cracked jokes in sports. You have plenty of time to get back to your senses when you get your arse kicked.
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:20 am to Rhymenoceros
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Okay, can you show me the data you've collected on that since it is clearly fact.
I just can't imagine looking at that graphic and thinking "they are calling me an idiot." Maybe that's just me.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:22 am to Crowknowsbest
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It only means that to very insecure people
Insecure people make tweets out to kids, it's one thing to try, it's another to be a tryhard. You congratulate the kid on his move and go on with your day, you don't ask interns of the program to make an infographic acting like a fat chick at the club "this what u missin' boy".
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:22 am to Rhymenoceros
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you dont come here you're an idiot and can't make correct decisions. Who knows how recruits, including OP, will interpret it.
Outside of a few idiots on message boards, I doubt anyone would interpret a post congratulating our draft picks who just got drafted in a negative manner. It’s not like they got drafted 3 months ago, so the timing idea you are whining about makes no sense.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:22 am to Crowknowsbest
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Good. He should do whatever he thinks will help UGA win. If that involves bringing more attention to an officiating issue, he should do that.
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That's actually exactly the time I usually cracked jokes in sports. You have plenty of time to get back to your senses when you get your arse kicked.
Okay, well I think its obvious why we are going to have differing opinions on these things and that's about all we have to rely on here. I think we should just agree to disagree and put a bullet in this topic.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:26 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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it's one thing to try, it's another to be a tryhard. You congratulate the kid on his move and go on with your day, you don't ask interns of the program to make an infographic acting like a fat chick at the club "this what u missin' boy".
This is recruiting, man. It's necessary to be a tryhard. That is exactly what you do.
Is it ridiculous in any other line of work? Yes, but this is the world of college football.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:32 am to Crowknowsbest
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This is recruiting, man. It's necessary to be a tryhard.
No, I think our definitions of tryhard differ.
"A person who puts a large amount of effort into achieving a certain image, or counter-image, to the point where it is obviously contrived."
I'm not saying you don't need effort, I'm saying you have to react like a grownup who has a big boy job when things don't go your way. It's literally what people teach children. "Just walk away." Which is what I'm going to do right now.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:37 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Insecure people make tweets out to kids, it'
Insecure people whine about relentless recruiting from their rival that spotlights extremely recent success of a group of players. Reeks of jealously on your part.
Great recruiters are always recruiting. Messages are sent to many recruits. A bad coach wouldn’t take advantage of nfl Draft success right after the draft because they aren’t good at selling their program or they don’t work hard enough to do it. It’s sad that you are so used to such weak recruiting that you freak out when others try harder.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 9:39 am
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:42 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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"A person who puts a large amount of effort into achieving a certain image, or counter-image, to the point where it is obviously contrived."
Of course it's contrived.
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I'm saying you have to react like a grownup who has a big boy job when things don't go your way.
You aren't selling to grown ups. You're selling to teenagers. Kirby's intended audience isn't comprised of adults.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:48 am to djsdawg
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Insecure people whine about relentless recruiting from their rival that spotlights extremely recent success of a group of players. Reeks of jealously on your part.
UGA fans have lost all sense of rational thought and cannot view anything without their biases clouding their judgment. Kirby could take a literal shite on uga’s head and you guys would laud it and state what a profound and unique way to draw attention to UGA.
No one is saying he shouldn’t take all angles in recruiting, and we are not jealous of his tweet. Simply stating that his tweet can be intepreted numerous ways and they aren’t all positive. I know you guys just won’t (actually refuse to) grasp that concept.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:52 am to Rhymenoceros
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Simply stating that his tweet can be intepreted numerous ways and they aren’t all positive.
They aren't all negative, either, and it's Kirby's job to balance the two.
In this case, that tweet is still getting attention the next day. I'd argue that it worked.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:54 am to Crowknowsbest
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They aren't all negative, either, and it's Kirby's job to balance the two.
Didnt say there weren't positive aspects. In fact, I said several times that if the tweet came out before OP's commitment and not right after (again, after Kirby knew he was going AU), there would have been only positives from it.
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In this case, that tweet is still getting attention the next day. I'd argue that it worked.
Maybe, but its the next day and OP is still committed to AU. You'd be foolish to think that some AU coach, player, recruit or fan has not brought this to OP's attention and skewed it against Kirby and in AU's favor. But like you have said, that's what coaches are supposed to do right? relentless recruiting tactics.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 10:01 am
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:55 am to Crowknowsbest
You understand that attention can be gained through negative interpretations as well, right? Not all attention is good attention.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:55 am to Rhymenoceros
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there would have been only positives from it.
Debatable. It wouldn't have gotten as much attention, for one.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:57 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Not all attention is good attention.
No, but this particular tweet is drawing attention to a very positive selling point for UGA's program.
The timing got the most possible eyeballs on it.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:57 am to Rhymenoceros
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I said several times that if the tweet came out before OP's commitment and not right after (again, after Kirby knew he was going AU), there would have been only positives from it.
100%. It wouldn't look nearly as connected and wouldn't give the idea of him being a spurned lover.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:57 am to Rhymenoceros
That post clearly wasn’t directed to you. It was directed to straws, who has proven to be a Kirby hater to the max. He spins against any uga success, and this is just the latest example. If anyone has Biases that cloud judgment as you put it, it’s him. Whenever you have a uga thought that aligns with his, it’s not a good look because it’s likely arse backwards of reality.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:59 am to Crowknowsbest
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Debatable. It wouldn't have gotten as much attention, for one.
I edited my above response so I'll re-insert this here.
Maybe it wouldn't have, but its the next day and OP is still committed to AU. You'd be foolish to think that some AU coach, player, recruit or fan has not brought this to OP's attention and skewed it against Kirby and in AU's favor. But like you have said, that's what coaches are supposed to do right? relentless recruiting tactics.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:01 am to Rhymenoceros
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You'd be foolish to think that some AU coach, player, recruit or fan has not brought this to OP's attention and skewed it against Kirby and in AU's favor. But like you have said, that's what coaches are supposed to do right? relentless recruiting tactics.
I'm sure they have. That's why it's a battle.
UGA is also recruiting other ILBs, so there's that aspect too. The miss on Pappoe gets their attention, and then they see this tweet to drive home the opportunity.
There are a lot of angles at play.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:05 am to Rhymenoceros
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Maybe, but its the next day and OP is still committed to AU. You'd be foolish to think that some AU coach, player, recruit or fan has not brought this to OP's attention and skewed it against Kirby and in AU's favor.
Why? I doubt any smart auburn person wants to highlight uga’s strong recruiting message about producing elite players that just made millions after success at uga.
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