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re: 5* RB Lorenzo Lingard to Miami

Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:10 pm to
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Of course you of all people wouldn't understand how awful the east has been the past 2 years.



Considering our last HC lost to an FCS and didn't bowl for the first time since before I was born, I think we're going in a pretty good direction.

Didn't say we're going to win championships, but I'd much rather be 10 - 4, 9 - 4 than, say....

The team we've dominated three years in a row.



It's not like you guys haven't had three straight years with top 10 recruiting and couldn't beat a backup quarterback from Purdue with almost the entire offensive line being underclassmen along with the most productive receivers.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:19 am to
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onsidering our last HC lost to an FCS and didn't bowl for the first time since before I was born, I think we're going in a pretty good direction.


That was one season way back when the east was really good. What about 11,12, and 14?

The past 2 uf teams would have had crappier records than they have had if they had to face better teams. Point is, your success has more to do with your schedule than it has to do with your teams quality, but go sticking that head in the sand.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 8:30 am
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:38 am to
You mentioned it directly. That 400 yd game of rushing was under WM in 2014. You're wrong again. Lsu was 8-4. UGA was 8-5.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:40 am to
I'd rather win NCs and the SEC. You're happy with subpar seasons. 9-4 and 10-4 with offenses in the 100s and lack of elite talent being brought in on both sides of the ballbis not going in the right direction. Mac s setting the program back in talent level where we'll be 8-4 until the New HC can fix his average recruiting. He's going to set the program worse off than WM who left him NFL talent on both sides of the ball.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 8:45 am
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:53 am to
Zuniga had 3 tackles and 2 tfl. You're so full of shite. Davis was showing signs as a FR and named a team captain. Although players got drafted and they were WM players who played in offenses that were in the 100s. There was no development from this staff. Reed, Humphries, still made the nfl. Mac has won exactly 1 more game than WM with an almost equal offense, defensive rankings and records vs top 25. Mac is a far worse recruiter though.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:29 am to
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That was one season way back when the east was really good. What about 11,12, and 14?


Georgia Southern is in the East?

Who knew.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:38 am to
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subpar season


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9-4 and 10-4


You're retarded. No other team in the East other than Tennessee had a record like ours -- and they went 4 - 4 in the SEC.

In fact, Alabama was the only team in the West who had a record like ours.

So, if we had had our game against Presbyterian, we'd be 10 - 4.

So, the only other team with a comparable/better record in the entire SEC was Alabama.

How can we be ''sub-par'' when we had the second best record in the entire SEC? Did these other teams not play the same teams we did, in a round-robin with two substitute teams?

Did we not do better than 4 - 8 and 7 - 6? Are those numbers not better?

When was the last time we won the SEC? 2008.

It's a fricking work in progress you fricking moron. You don't just magically come back from the worst losing coach since 1989 and start winning championships.

Subpar is 4 - 8 and 7 - 6.

Better than average (second best in the SEC) is where we are. If we get a quarterback, we'll be better but we're probably still, yet, another year away from actually competing with established stalwarts like Alabama and FSU who had surpassed us because of Muschamp.

You hate the Gators more than any Dog.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:44 am to
4 losses in a season is subpar and gets you fired here. See this guy:



Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32899 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:48 am to
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Who knew.



I haven't come across many people who fail to comprehend the point as often as you do. Point is, there isn't a big difference in quality between UF's 2014, 2015, and 2016 teams. Its the same crap offense and same stout defense, but vs an easier group of SEC rivals.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:50 am to
2Nd best in the SEC? Lol you're smoking crack. We went 9-4 along with UT, UGA, LSU, AUB, TAMU had 8. 9-4 is average here. It was Bama and everyone else. UF doesn't claim moral victories.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:53 am to
No. Bama and FSU were humming right along before WM arrived. They'll keep humming right along because Mac can't get elite players like WM, Meyer, SOS or even Zook. You could give Mac a decade and his ceiling is 8-10 wins a yr.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:57 am to
Exactly. The East was the worst P5 division and even ranked behind the AAC West for most of the year. It came in 2nd to last in the P5 ahead of the Pac-12 south. Straws is a blind homer.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:23 am to
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2Nd best in the SEC? Lol you're smoking crack. We went 9-4 along with UT, UGA, LSU, AUB, TAMU had 8. 9-4 is average here. It was Bama and everyone else. UF doesn't claim moral victories.


You understand that the Presbyterian game is considered an automatic win? Outside of that, Georgia, Auburn, LSU nor TAMU had 9. We did.

Would have had ten if we hadn't traveled to LSU and beaten them on the road.

+2 wins against every other team other than Tennessee whose SEC record was way worse than ours -- you're just wrong. We had the second most wins in the SEC and we would have had it outright if we didn't have to play LSU instead of Presbyterian. Outside of that, one team had more than 10 wins...Bama.

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9-4 is average here.


Since when?

Oh, yeah, since fricking McElwain. He made it the average. Because out of the last years, it has not been average.

In fact, let's take a look.

2016: (10) - 4
2015: 10 - 4
2014: 7 - 5
2013: 4 - 8
2012: 11 - 2
2011: 7 - 6
2010: 8 - 5

So basically, 3 out of 7 years were 10/9 win years.

We haven't won the East since 2009 before McElwain.

We haven't won the SEC since fricking 2008.

Where are you getting this ''this is average, man, this is what it's supposed to be''. For the last fricking 7 years it hasn't been.

We: Won the East, had back to back 10 win seasons, have put away teams like Vanderbilt, Missouri and Kentucky (Muschamp actually went to overtime).

McElwain broke a fricking school record defensively against North Texas.

It's not about the East being down, it's about we weren't bowling, didn't even have 8 win seasons outside of 1 with the last HC.

Now we're getting the wins and what gives me hope? Without a modicum of talent on the offensive side of the ball. When that talent DOES come AND we give him time to coach up that side of the ball, we'll be just fine.

And we'll be just fine when you're gone from the boards after he doesn't get fired this season like you said.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:27 am to
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I haven't come across many people who fail to comprehend the point as often as you do. Point is, there isn't a big difference in quality between UF's 2014, 2015, and 2016 teams. Its the same crap offense and same stout defense, but vs an easier group of SEC rivals.


I'm sorry, but you can't say the East is worse and then say SOS when Muschamp lost to an FCS team and then got blown out by Vanderbilt.

If you honestly think McElwain would have the same record, or that there'd be no difference between the two you're more retarded than I thought you were -- and that'd be a difficult feat.

Look, you both can jack yourselves off DJ and TJ, but the fact is: Our team has looked monumentally different and better with less overall talent (especially on offense) while Georgia has underperformed while recruiting top ten classes year after year.

Again, enjoy your Will Muschamp. Peace.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:25 pm to
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Zuniga had 3 tackles and 2 tfl. You're so full of shite. Davis was showing signs as a FR and named a team captain


Zuniga had 3 tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, and 4 quarterback hurries in one game. You're full of shite trying to act like that isn't a damn good game. He broke the record for sacks by a freshman in school history.

That's not showing any signs of being good? You're such a troll man. frick you.

Also, I'm pretty certain Jarrad Davis wasn't a team captain as a freshman, because he didn't play until the UGA game his freshman year. So you're a troll, and you don't know what the frick you're talking about.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32899 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:48 pm to
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If you honestly think McElwain would have the same record, or that there'd be no difference between the two you're more retarded than I thought you were


Once again you are missing the point. I specifically said
quote:

there isn't a big difference in quality between UF's 2014, 2015, and 2016 teams.


What does the scoring tell us?

The 2014 team had a point diff of 9.2.
The 2015 team had a point diff of 4.9.
The 2016 team had a point diff of 7.1.

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:53 pm to
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Zuniga had 3 tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, and 4 quarterback hurries in one game. You're full of shite trying to act like that isn't a damn good game. He broke the record for sacks by a freshman in school history.



Zuñigas presence was always felt on the field even as a Freshman.

Just wishful thinking from two Dog fans.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 1:26 pm to
The game was never played!! You can't claim games you don't play. I'm done with your stupidity. UT played a harder SEC than US. 4 losses a year and losing big games is what got Ron Zook fired. What are you 15? Zook went 8-5, 8-5, and 7-4. He got canned.why don't you go back to win SOS, and Meyer were here. That's right it doesn't fit your narrative. The east is garbage. We needed OT to put away 3-9 Fau, a fg to beat VU and Mac almost lost to UK his first year. Mac and WM are almost exact carbon copy coaches. WM could at least hire a defensive staff. Mac's hires have been average at best. They're just bailed out by WMs NFL players.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 1:35 pm to
One game doesn't make a career. Unless you're a walk on scoring a TD.

You're wrong again.

quote:

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- The giveaway that Jarrad Davis was making a favorable impression on Florida's coaching staff and his teammates came before the Missouri game in October.

In the moments prior to the seventh game of Davis' college career, he walked to midfield as one of Florida's four captains. A pair of fifth-year senior offensive linemen -- Jonotthan Harrison and Jon Halapio -- and sophomore defensive end Dante Fowler Jr. joined Davis.



LINK

For a bunch of "real" gator fans you and straws don't have a lot of knowledge about "your team". It's getting tiresome making you guys look like you have no idea what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:41 pm to
this thread is the gift that keeps on giving
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