re: 5* RB Lorenzo Lingard to Miami

The answer is 7. That's not a pretty good team.

Anyways, I am just arguing mcelwain isn't recruiting good, which is factually supported.Uf should never be 3 star heavy.

great. now this thread can end.

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just a shining example of what it's like to have great recruiting

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Uga has had weak recruiting at ol, wr, dl, and db, and the 2013 class was pure shite. That was all on richt. Uf has had a major d vs o advantage.

Hope you Enjoyed the last of muschamps defensive players. Might not be as easy to win without them.

I'd rather win the SEC AND NCs with 4-5*s. WM and Mac aren't the standards here.

Our ugly girls need loving too. Congrats on the sex.

You realize that you're saying "only" 3 DBs were four stars? That's a ton for one class. Marco, Brad Stewart, and Chris Henderson were consensus 4 stars. Brian Edwards is a 6'3 CB and was ranked in the Rivals250, higher ranked than Henderson actually. Shawn Davis was a three star on Rivals and 247, but was ranked in the ESPN300 and has worked hard since enrolling early on campus. I'll take that DB haul over most any DB haul in the country last year, excluding Ohio state. You can't diminish the DB class. It is blind hatred for you to do so.

Nick Washington got hurt and was replaced by Chauncey Gardner in the last three games of the year. He got three interceptions in those three games. Stop trying to downplay how solid he played because it doesn't fit your narrative. My comment about Thompson was just saying that he's shown flashes of making plays, I've said before that I'm not particularly high on Thompson. Trying to say Callaway is anything less than phenomenal is absolutely laughable. Laughable. He is one of the best receivers in the conference despite having horrible quarterback play in both of his first two seasons. Hopefully the quarterback play will be better this year with a new guy who developed during his redshirt year last year, whoever it may be. I'm not gonna argue about the other offensive players because you agreed with me. They showed flashes but were inconsistent. I attribute that to being young and I think that that will improve as the QB play gets better and as those guys get older and mature.

The point is that we've had a some really good things happening lately. We beat an above average to good Iowa team 30-3, we closed on signing day with a top 10 class (still not as good as it needs to be, but a steady improvement from last year and the year before that), and three solid hires. Seider was a home run, and the more we hear reviews about Brad Davis the more excited I'm getting about him. He has the kind of personality that is going to kill it recruiting. And this OL class is going to be sick for us. 4 top 200 players should be coming to UF on the OL. I liked the Bell hire mostly because of his familiarity with SoFla and being tight with Randy Shannon, but I'm in wait and see mode with him. I think we need DB coaches who develop guys. The brand recruits DBs itself, we need a coach to develop them.

Gardner is a great player who was a 4*. The higher rank players you get the better chance of success. Right now Mac's roster is 60+% 3*s. That is Arkansas level talent at UF. That's pathetic. Iowa went 8-4 they weren't good or above average. They lost to a Div 2 school. Callaway didn't look anything like he did as a freshman and disappeared in mutiple games. He's a good player but not great or elite like Percy, Caldwell. He didn't even finish in the top 10 in receiving. He had more than 50 yards receiving in only 6 games last year. Multiple games of 40 yards or less. That's not an elite player. He still has a ton of work to do to be elite. The brand doesn't recruit players, coach great coaches do. Otherwise Callahan wouldn't have gotten fired. Davis has a great personality but that won't translate if he can't coach. You're dreaming if you think we're landing an elite OL without a QB. We do need elite talent there. Most of our OL wouldn't be on the two deep at Bama, LSU, FSU or AUB. I hope Ivey finally reaches his potential and Taylor keeps it up. Any talk of Davis or Bell being great at anything right now is fluff and hype. These articles happen every year then we see the results on the field and the fluff pieces disappear. See Collins, Callahan, and Summers.

We can stop this if you'll just admit that the last 3 things Mac has done have been in the right direction. Blew out Iowa, closed the class strong, and made 3 hires that have the potential to be good.

He's done some good things, and now is the time to make the next step and do some great things. Meet me there

I've been of the opinion that Florida has the talent to go 10-2 or 11-1 if they can get above average quarterback play. It's Mac's make or break year to develop his quarterback. One of them have to be ready to play, not at a Heisman level, but 19 TDs and 7 INT. I think that's reasonable and would be a solid year for a redshirt freshman. I think we'll continue to beat teams we should beat and struggle against elite teams like FSU and Alabama until we get good quarterback play. Mac is a good coach and I really hope that he develops the quarterback this year. I think we have a floor of 9-3 with poor QB play and a ceiling of 11-1 with good QB play. We'all have to wait and see

Average or bad qb play = 9-3?