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re: 5* RB Lorenzo Lingard to Miami
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:25 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:25 pm to djsdawg
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Average or bad qb play = 9-3?
Yeah, and I'd be disappointed with 9-3. The talent on offense and the offensive line finally having some experience and quality depth is the basis for my confidence in the offense. Franks or Trask aren't going to be working with the same kinda guys that Driskel, Treon, and Morhingweg had to work with. We have some legitimate playmakers at wide receiver, a solid stable of running backs, and an offensive line that has some games under their belt. Everything is in place for the next QB. 9-3 would be disappointing. 10-2 would be as expected. 11-1 would completely sell most Gator fans on what Mac is building, because then we'd be playing in the SECCG for a spot in the playoff, which is ultimately what the goal should be at UF
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 11:09 pm to djsdawg
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Hope you Enjoyed the last of muschamps defensive players. Might not be as easy to win without them.
We played without a lot of Muschamp's players, we'll be okay. It's not like we own Georgia or anything.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 1:26 am to atlgator
Driskel and Treon had Nfl players at OL, RB and WR. What are teams are you watching?
Posted on 2/18/17 at 1:29 am to atlgator
No his average coaching hires, recruiting and getting blown out will be the end of him when he goes 7-5.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 7:53 am to TJGator1215
Agree to disagree. Based on our success at home under Mac, I don't see us losing to UGA, and I don't see us losing 4-5 home games. Michigan is a completely new team next year and I think we have a good shot against them. There's 6 cakewalk W's next year. We're not going 1-5 in the games against good teams. I'll hold that we're going to win a lot of games and finish the year 10-2
Posted on 2/18/17 at 8:24 am to atlgator
Mac has gone 3-7 vs the top 25 and 8-9 vs teams with winning records.it's not out of the realm of reality. His home record is almost the same as WM, Meyer and SOS 1st 2 years but has been a far easier schedule and he's won ugly.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:58 am to TJGator1215
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Is home record is almost the same as WM, Meyer and SOS 1st 2 years but has been a far easier schedule and he's won ugly.
Uh, he's only lost one home game his entire tenure. Muschamp lost two at home in his first year, and practically at home in Jacksonville the next. After Meyer's players washed out he lost a whole hell of a lot more, record losses.
I mean, you're already gonna lose your ban bet, so it's not a big deal.
You'll just go to your UGA alter that types and talks exactly like you.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:08 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Every fan critical of their own coach is an altar iyo? That's beyond silly. I guess you were an altar when muschamp was around?
Posted on 2/18/17 at 12:35 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
WM went 12-2 with a much tougher home schedule. You're delusional. Mac still has had a UF team score on offense vs FSU.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 1:16 pm to TJGator1215
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WM went 12-2 with a much tougher home schedule. You're delusional. Mac still has had a UF team score on offense vs FSU.
You made a ban bet that a two-time Division winning, record breaking HC is going to be fired after this year.
Two years is what it takes to wash out the last HC, or blow through their talent.
Want to make a perma-ban bet here that McElwain doesn't lose 8 games?
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:46 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Lol I like how you throw in record breaking as if he's SEt NCaa or SEC records. I've already got a bet with you. It doesn't take coaches two years. You're so full of shite
Fulmer
SOS
Meyer
Fisher
Saban
Miles
Tressel
Kelly
Stoops
Butch Davis
Richt
Etc.
All turned their schools around fast.
Mac's nfl talent he inherited is leaving and his stocking the team full of non elite players.
You're delusional. He's right there with WM as a UF coach but a worse recruiter.
Fulmer
SOS
Meyer
Fisher
Saban
Miles
Tressel
Kelly
Stoops
Butch Davis
Richt
Etc.
All turned their schools around fast.
Mac's nfl talent he inherited is leaving and his stocking the team full of non elite players.
You're delusional. He's right there with WM as a UF coach but a worse recruiter.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:41 pm to TJGator1215
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All turned their schools around fast.
Things we were doing before McElwain got here:
Getting dominated by Vanderbilt.
Getting dominated by Missouri.
Losing to FCS teams.
Not going to bowls.
Not winning the East.
Struggling against lesser talent in spite of stellar recruiting.
Like, there's no comparison. Muschamp was getting blown-out by the good teams (that hasn't changed) but when was the last time McElwain lost to a Vanderbilt? I mean, Florida State and Alabama should drum us if we don't have a line or quarterback, it's inevitable.
His worst loss was probably against Arkansas because we were favored heavily -- however, with a broken QB on the road with a deflated defense at all key positions it was only something that was waiting.
At the end of the year, however, the defense showed clear progress and improvement.
1. We held Iowa's defense less than 100 yards below their average.
2. Iowa suffered their lowest scoring game the entire season.
As for the offense:
Austin Appleby, a journeyman backup quarterback at Purdue had 222 yards of offense.
He, alone, had more offensive yards than the entire team of Michigan combined. Same goes for Nebraska, both teams were ranked.
So I don't know what to tell you, TJ. He is definitely taking the program in a better direction than we were.
If going from losing/almost losing to FCS teams and not bowling to winning the East and producing better numbers than his predecesors (defensively, too, and SOS is not an excuse when Muschamp lost to an FCS, sorry our offense looks at the very least better coached, just without the pivotal pieces that were neglected by the prior coach), I'm uncertain what as to what evidence can be presented to you in which you would change your mind.
If he wins another ten games? Will it take 11? 12?
Is there any amount of evidence, on field or off that will convince you that he's at the very least a good coach?
Posted on 2/19/17 at 9:09 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Of course you of all people wouldn't understand how awful the east has been the past 2 years.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:51 am to djsdawg
The biggest problem most of us have with TJ is he doesn't even admit when Mac does something good. He turns positive things into negatives and never gives Mac credit for the positives. It just gets old. It's a message board and trolls will inevitably be on here. Him being a troll and mentally unstable at times (when he wished death on pro-Mac posters) is why he was banned from the Gator Board
Posted on 2/19/17 at 2:07 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You're retarded. UF football didn't start in 2013. I like how you think WM started UF football. He didn't. Vandy has beaten UF one time in the last 25 years and it was against a terrible HC. UF is struggling against lesser talent now and looks unprepared most games. We need OT to beat 3-9 FAU and a last second fg to beat Vandy. Iowa's offense was ranked in The 100s and they got beat by NDSU and Northwestern.
WM is not the set bar here. Mac is just at his level as a overall HC.
WM is not the set bar here. Mac is just at his level as a overall HC.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 2/19/17 at 2:09 pm to atlgator
I'm not trolling. You guys are with saying Mac is a great coach. He's not at all.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 6:32 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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We played without a lot of Muschamp's players, we'll be okay. It's not like we own Georgia or anything.
You're retarded. No surprise you have no clue what you're talking about.
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Davis, Anzalone, Tabor, Wilson, McMillan, Ivie, Brantley, Harris, Maye, Dawson, Sherit, and Washington all played in fact the entire defense played in that game. 90% were WM players.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:59 pm to TJGator1215
Keep in mind, That guy considers a true freshman playing one snap to be a full time starter.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 9:41 pm to TJGator1215
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Davis, Anzalone, Tabor, Wilson, McMillan, Ivie, Brantley, Harris, Maye, Dawson, Sherit, and Washington all played in fact the entire defense played in that game. 90% were WM players.
I can see why you'd assume I was talking about that game specifically, however, we beat a better team than Georgia in LSU.
And we ran 400 yards on them one time with Treon Harris at QB.
Please, stop tilting at windmills because you've been proven wrong again and again.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 9:43 pm to TJGator1215
The UGA game was the last game we played with the defense at full strength. Damn, Zuniga had a hell of a game against UGA.
All of these guys are Gators. The coach that brought them in doesn't matter at this point. The current staff developed them into the players they became their senior year for the most part. A lot of those guys are naturally talented, and the staff got their full potential I would say. It's easy to waste talented players with bad coaching, see Muschamp with Driskel, Demarcus Robinson, Kelvin Taylor, Jordan Reed, DJ Humphries, etc etc etc
All of these guys are Gators. The coach that brought them in doesn't matter at this point. The current staff developed them into the players they became their senior year for the most part. A lot of those guys are naturally talented, and the staff got their full potential I would say. It's easy to waste talented players with bad coaching, see Muschamp with Driskel, Demarcus Robinson, Kelvin Taylor, Jordan Reed, DJ Humphries, etc etc etc
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