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re: 4 * LB Willie Gay decommits from OM
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:25 pm to Blanky6715
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:25 pm to Blanky6715
No,there isn't any reasonable doubt from people that know either situation.
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:30 pm to peepingcrxxms
I disagree, and nothing is limited to "people that know either situation". I know family who live in Starkville who would disagree with what you are saying personally so maybe you don't know the situation as good as you think you do.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:32 pm to peepingcrxxms
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No,there isn't any reasonable doubt from people that know either situation.
Then they are as ignorant as you. You can not use what happened 10 years ago at a school like Ole Miss and compare it or predict what will happen at LSU.
Everything is a 180 from the other. You also can't discount that good coaches tend to learn from their mistakes and adapt. Whether or not Orgeron is one of those has yet to be determined. So far it's looking like he is.
To say you know otherwise based on a small sample of data is birdbrained.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:38 pm to memphisplaya
I know Ed held a live scrimmage tackling players to the ground during a rain delay during the WF game. I know Ed also had players do bull in the ring during that rain delay and players went through the wall in the dressing room during that delay. OM also got the shite kicked out of them after the game resumed. I know Ed literally put coffee grains in his lip like he had a dip in to get a caffeine buzz faster. I know Ed ripped his shirt off so many times in the facility that players just ignored him after a while. I know that Ed went for it on 4th and 1 at midfield up by 14 points in the 4th quarter and lost his job. I know that Ed was so awful that a pro bowl linebacker walked off the field during practice and quit. I know that MSU is never going to field athletes like LSU and the only chance that we will have to beat them is if they turn the program over to a coach like Ed. I know Ed is an idiot. If you don't, then you are uninformed or an idiot as well. Also, Willie Gay is going to MSU and anyone that tells you otherwise is uninformed.
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:48 pm to peepingcrxxms
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I know Ed held a live scrimmage tackling players to the ground during a rain delay during the WF game
Ok..
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I know Ed also had players do bull in the ring during that rain delay and players went through the wall in the dressing room during that delay.
Done this in high school before, not a big deal.
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players went through the wall in the dressing room during that delay
shite happens
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OM also got the shite kicked out of them after the game resumed.
Yeah they were pretty terrible, pretty known fact that Orgeron didn't do great his first stent as a head coach. Ever heard the phrase live and learn.
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I know Ed literally put coffee grains in his lip like he had a dip in to get a caffeine buzz faster.
I've seen people do this before, I think it's weird too but who cares really.
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I know Ed ripped his shirt off so many times in the facility that players just ignored him after a while.
He's done this at LSU and the players loved it.
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I know that Ed went for it on 4th and 1 at midfield up by 14 points in the 4th quarter and lost his job. I know that Ed was so awful that a pro bowl linebacker walked off the field during practice and quit.
Same thing live and learn, and how many coaches do you know that didn't have a player quit on them?
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Willie Gay is going to MSU and anyone that tells you otherwise is uninformed.
My cousin goes to high school with Willie and says you are wrong.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:49 pm to Blanky6715
*Sounds like you're an idiot as well then. Having a full out scrimmage and bull in the ring where you tackle all the way to the ground during the middle of a football game is idiotic and if you have to learn that through trial and error then you are an idiot. His starting quarterback missed multiple days of practice because Ed's idiotic arse ran him nearly to death. He lost 35 pounds in 1 day of practice. Ed was mad at him and called him a pussy for not practicing the next day.
*Your cousin is wrong on Wille Gay. The ban bet still stands.
*Your cousin is wrong on Wille Gay. The ban bet still stands.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:59 pm to peepingcrxxms
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I know Ed held a live scrimmage tackling players to the ground during a rain delay during the WF game.
irrelevant to now.
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I know Ed also had players do bull in the ring during that rain delay and players went through the wall in the dressing room during that delay.
irrelevant. O has admitted his mistakes with Ole Miss.
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OM also got the shite kicked out of them after the game resumed.
Ok... guess what? Irrelevant
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I know Ed literally put coffee grains in his lip like he had a dip in to get a caffeine buzz faster
And why would this cause doubt? Because he has a caffeine high? I'd rather him dip coffee, which he doesn't anymore btw, than be an alcoholic like he use to be. Sign of behavior change yes or no?
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I know Ed ripped his shirt off so many times in the facility that players just ignored him after a while.
Doesn't do the wild boys crap anymore.
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I know that Ed went for it on 4th and 1 at midfield up by 14 points in the 4th quarter and lost his job.
Something about learning from mistakes. Hmmmm who said that?
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I know that Ed was so awful that a pro bowl linebacker walked off the field during practice and quit.
O cannot control the cognition or actions of those that disagree with his methods. Has Mullen never done anything you would find disingenuous or non-practical?
I can think of several examples. Perhaps he learned from it?
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I know that MSU is never going to field athletes like LSU and the only chance that we will have to beat them is if they turn the program over to a coach like Ed.
The 90's say otherwise. You bring up O's coaching history, but completely disregard your own head-to-head history with LSU?
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I know Ed is an idiot.
No you don't. In fact you so little and are using such a small window your POV is becoming construed and tightly woven. You are not acknowledging that generally past behavior is learned from. Now whether or not they continue said behavior is another story entirely, but judging from his dropping of many of the habits you mentioned points to a change in behavior or coaching philosophy.
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If you don't, then you are uninformed or an idiot as well.
Well I guess I am an uninformed idiot then. Even though I disputed all your irrelevant claims, grievances with past behavior, and complete disregard for history in head-to-head competition.
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:03 pm to memphisplaya
You didn't do anything but try to rationalize how someone could possibly be stupid enough to actually have to learn from those type of mistakes. You hired a guy that had to learn that it wasn't smart to hold a full scrimmage during the middle of a football game. You hired a guy that had to learn that players losing 35 pounds of body weight during a practice wasn't a good idea. You hired a guy that had to learn that running into the qb meeting room where the qb's were watching film and ripping his shirt off and throwing tables across the room wasn't a good idea. You hired a guy that had to learn that practicing a team so hard that the best football player and hardest worker on his team quit wasn't a good idea. I can only imagine what else he has to figure out.
Also, I didn't say that LSU hiring Ed would mean we are going to beat LSU regularly. As you pointed out, that hasn't been the case no matter the coach. You hiring a coach like Ed does give us the best shot though.
Also, I didn't say that LSU hiring Ed would mean we are going to beat LSU regularly. As you pointed out, that hasn't been the case no matter the coach. You hiring a coach like Ed does give us the best shot though.
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:05 pm to Blanky6715
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He's done this at LSU and the players loved it.
Pretty sure that's not the case.
Also picture this. He's gone from ripping off his shirt at a first meeting at Ole Miss, the claims of him forcing contact practice in the locker rooms, and treating everyone like they are a Warren Sapp to scaling back practices at LSU.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:06 pm to peepingcrxxms
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He lost 35 pounds in 1 day of practice
Exaggerate much? Please...
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:08 pm to peepingcrxxms
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You didn't do anything but try to rationalize how someone could possibly be stupid enough to actually have to learn from those type of mistakes. You hired a guy that had to learn that it wasn't smart to hold a full scrimmage during the middle of a football game. You hired a guy that had to learn that players losing 35 pounds of body weight during a practice wasn't a good idea. You hired a guy that had to learn that running into the qb meeting room where the qb's were watching film and ripping his shirt off and throwing tables across the room wasn't a good idea.
We hired a guy who has one of the top DCs + OCs in the game, one of the best recruiting staffs around and is 12-4 since said poor coaching run a DECADE ago.
Would it really surprise you if he wins at LSU? Really? Or are we just going to bring up stuff that happened a decade ago if he continues to win a lot more than he's losing these days?
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:08 pm to peepingcrxxms
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You didn't do anything but try to rationalize how someone could possibly be stupid enough to actually have to learn from those type of mistakes. You hired a guy that had to learn that it wasn't smart to hold a full scrimmage during the middle of a football game. You hired a guy that had to learn that players losing 35 pounds of body weight during a practice wasn't a good idea. You hired a guy that had to learn that running into the qb meeting room where the qb's were watching film and ripping his shirt off and throwing tables across the room wasn't a good idea.
He has already scaled back practice time.
He has hired a OC to call his own offense, which is something he didn't do at Ole Miss.
He has brought back LSU alumni and former players. He has reached out to the LA HS's to reestablish positive connections that recently soured under Miles.
He has worked relentlessly to overcome this stigma about his performance at Ole Miss.
I have disproven you. You're just too much of an "idiot" to see it.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:10 pm to sdmlsu1
It's not an exaggeration. The medical staff forced Ed to hold him out of the next few practices because he lost so much weight. The players have to weigh in every day before and after practice. Just because you don't like the fact that you hired a psychopath doesn't make him not a psychopath.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:12 pm to peepingcrxxms
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It's not an exaggeration
Yeah, I'm pretty sure someone losing 35 pounds in 1 practice would be a good example of an exaggeration.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:12 pm to thunderbird1100
He's done that all with players that someone else recruited and developed. If you are happy with the hire, good for you. So is the rest of the conference.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:13 pm to peepingcrxxms
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He's done that all with players that someone else recruited and developed
So you think head coaches recruit and develop every player, really?
And he helped stack Ole Miss with talent by the time he left, he ended up failing there because he went all in for a 5-star JUCO QB who turned out to be a dud. His transfer QB which helped out Ole Miss significantly, wasn't eligible until the year after he was fired.
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:14 pm to thunderbird1100
It's really not. There's a podcast where the guy gives a first hand account of the entire situation if you'd like to listen to it. Or you can continue to live in your little bubble and believe what you want to believe.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:16 pm to peepingcrxxms
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It's really not. There's a podcast where the guy gives a first hand account of the entire situation if you'd like to listen to it. Or you can continue to live in your little bubble and believe what you want to believe.
Yeah guess what, losing 35 pounds in 1 practice is impossible you moron. Nobody is buying that for a second. You grossly exaggerated that. You have no clue what you're talking about and clearly cant put your emotions aside.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:16 pm to thunderbird1100
The head coach is responsible for every aspect of the program. The only thing Ed has had to do so far is let the coordinators do their job. He hasn't had to manage off seasons and everything that entails. If his past is anything close to his future, he won't do well managing class balance, discipline problems, or any other aspect of your program other than jumping through a wall.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:17 pm to thunderbird1100
Guess what, it's possible in 2 a days MS heat in full pads you fricking dumbass. You hired an idiot and you just haven't figured it out yet.
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