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re: 3* star safety Dakota Mitchell is a Gator
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:55 pm to GatorsGators
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:55 pm to GatorsGators
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You can diminish the obvious turnaround there by saying it was a schedule difference, that we got some lucky breaks in close games, or that we only beat the teams we were supposed to beat.
I didnt say a thing about luck, but it was a glaring schedule difference and it was a glaring roster difference. It appears you concede those points as you didnt provide any argument against them.
As for the 2018 offense, the turnaround was mainly based upon your OOC games. Once again, not as impressive once you dig into the details.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 9:56 pm
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:08 pm to djsdawg
Glaring roster difference will always be there with UF and UGA
Kirby is as good as they come recruiting
But Mullen is making the D so much better everybody signed now has a decent to very good offer list
Just need the right QB
Alex Smith
Dak
Tebow
Hell even Brian Johnson who beat the shite out
Leak
Fitzgerald
4 guys with 100+ TDs scored in sec and he coached half of em
Mac signed 5 every that never shoulda been gators
Also couldn't get an offense going or land a LB or DL worth mentioning
Clayton he was a bust Robinson the WR heart problem
Plus the man was horrible at roster management couldn't land stud DL or LB to save his life
Mullen has done that quite a few times at least compared to what he inherited
Mac literally thought letting Grier go wouldnt hurt a thing. We coulda easily backed him and he woulda back ready to go for them SEC title games
With what he did to start who knows maybe he wins one.
Callaway Swain Cleveland etc still tho never could run the ball for shite under Mac
3rd and 2 and 3rd and 1 failed so many times lol its sad
Kirby is as good as they come recruiting
But Mullen is making the D so much better everybody signed now has a decent to very good offer list
Just need the right QB
Alex Smith
Dak
Tebow
Hell even Brian Johnson who beat the shite out
Leak
Fitzgerald
4 guys with 100+ TDs scored in sec and he coached half of em
Mac signed 5 every that never shoulda been gators
Also couldn't get an offense going or land a LB or DL worth mentioning
Clayton he was a bust Robinson the WR heart problem
Plus the man was horrible at roster management couldn't land stud DL or LB to save his life
Mullen has done that quite a few times at least compared to what he inherited
Mac literally thought letting Grier go wouldnt hurt a thing. We coulda easily backed him and he woulda back ready to go for them SEC title games
With what he did to start who knows maybe he wins one.
Callaway Swain Cleveland etc still tho never could run the ball for shite under Mac
3rd and 2 and 3rd and 1 failed so many times lol its sad
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:12 pm to Peter167
Mullen is clearly better than Mac was.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:15 pm to djsdawg
Glad to agree on something
Alright dog peace
Alright dog peace
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:13 pm to djsdawg
quote:I've already posted about the roster situation -- see the post regarding what happened to the players implicated in the fraud scandal. In summary, we didn't get most of those players back (and really only Scarlett, Miller, and to a lesser extent Houston were at all difference makers going forward anyway), so the idea that our roster rebounded in a big way in 2018 due to getting suspended players back is complete myth.
I didnt say a thing about luck, but it was a glaring schedule difference and it was a glaring roster difference. It appears you concede those points as you didnt provide any argument against them.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:52 am to GatorsGators
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I've already posted about the roster situation -- see the post regarding what happened to the players implicated in the fraud scandal. In summary, we didn't get most of those players back (and really only Scarlett, Miller, and to a lesser extent Houston were at all difference makers going forward anyway), so the idea that our roster rebounded in a big way in 2018 due to getting suspended players back is complete myth.
Suspensions were only part of the roster problem in 2017. That problem was compounded by injuries, which you havent acknowledged.
Combine the two, and yall had 18 guys out for the season by November, plus others out for SC. That is NOT a myth. That is insane attrition for a season, which yall did NOT suffer from in 2018.
As for not getting Antonio back, yall got Van Jefferson as a transfer, which is a wash, and also added Grimes. Major upgrade at WR.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 1:54 am
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:40 pm to meansonny
Nobody expected Mullen to win 10 tho esp after kentucky loss
Mizzou also
19 he only lost to the champs by 14 and the dogs who where like 6th by 7
To say anybody knows his ceiling at UF after those 2 yrs where he worked that with Macs guys
Just shows lower ranked talent in fla is better then most the best in Miss
The man is great at finding underrated talent
I just cant wait for this season and 21
Mizzou also
19 he only lost to the champs by 14 and the dogs who where like 6th by 7
To say anybody knows his ceiling at UF after those 2 yrs where he worked that with Macs guys
Just shows lower ranked talent in fla is better then most the best in Miss
The man is great at finding underrated talent
I just cant wait for this season and 21
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:45 pm to djsdawg
Not sure why you would penalize Mullen for going out and getting Jefferson and Grimes in the portal
Again, I'm not arguing our roster was complete shite -- it wasn't -- but it was mediocre by UF standards, and there was a culture problem, as evidenced by a supposed leader upperclassmen WR being instrumental in a fraud scheme.
Mullen righting the program was, wait for it, impressive. You can diminish it through whatever logic you want but our program was very susceptible to falling into a Tennessee-esque decline and Mullen seems to have prevented that
Again, I'm not arguing our roster was complete shite -- it wasn't -- but it was mediocre by UF standards, and there was a culture problem, as evidenced by a supposed leader upperclassmen WR being instrumental in a fraud scheme.
Mullen righting the program was, wait for it, impressive. You can diminish it through whatever logic you want but our program was very susceptible to falling into a Tennessee-esque decline and Mullen seems to have prevented that
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:12 pm to GatorsGators
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Not sure why you would penalize Mullen for going out and getting Jefferson and Grimes in the portal
That point isnt to penalize Mullen, but to compare roster situations. 2018 had a much better one than 2017. Its not even close.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:09 pm to djsdawg
Had a million times better coaching too and they did a hell of job in the offseason getting that OL that couldn't run block for hell and turned em into maulers
Chauncey was getting run over weekly by every RB in the conference. Vosean regressed a ton and Polite was a non factor in one yr Grantham turn their whole game around
Randy Shannon sunk the D to garbage after Collins
Mullen took over a shite offense and defense in reality
And the front 7 was comprised of mostly 3* in the SEC yet he went 21-5 his first 2 years
Mac was just shite recruiting the front 7 the most important area of a SEC D
Chauncey was getting run over weekly by every RB in the conference. Vosean regressed a ton and Polite was a non factor in one yr Grantham turn their whole game around
Randy Shannon sunk the D to garbage after Collins
Mullen took over a shite offense and defense in reality
And the front 7 was comprised of mostly 3* in the SEC yet he went 21-5 his first 2 years
Mac was just shite recruiting the front 7 the most important area of a SEC D
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:29 pm to Peter167
U look at this Mac class 7 transfers and James Robinson had a heart defect
LINK /
He made Cece so fat he was nowhere near the sack machine he came in as
Ivey and Clayton. Clayton transferred while Ivey was average at best till Hevesy and Savage showed up
Jawaan Taylor consistently outshined him
Hell every class had 4 or 5 transfers at least I think lol not only took over a bad but pretty depleted team
LINK /
He made Cece so fat he was nowhere near the sack machine he came in as
Ivey and Clayton. Clayton transferred while Ivey was average at best till Hevesy and Savage showed up
Jawaan Taylor consistently outshined him
Hell every class had 4 or 5 transfers at least I think lol not only took over a bad but pretty depleted team
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 10:33 pm
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