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re: 2013 Alabama Football Recruiting Thread - DH Decommited from UGA
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:07 pm to Tim7105
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:07 pm to Tim7105
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He is worrying me though. I don't get how so many guys have "interest" in us but so many elite guys end up elsewhere. Sure we sign our share but its not like we should be getting. Honestly a guy committed to us as long as Foster has been shouldn't even be considering programs like Auburn and Georgia right now. Same thing with losing guys to Clemson etc.
You must be new to recruiting.
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:08 pm to Tim7105
quote:You do hit on more than a few of them. The guys you listed are the only top guys Bama just plain missed on
But even probability wise we would hit on a few of them
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:12 pm to AMM AU9893
Not to mention the fact that players are better suited in other systems.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:16 pm to dawg4lyfe
I've never understood the system thing with DL recruits. If they have the hips and the athletic ability to be an elite pass rusher they can cover the flats. If Courtney Upshaw could play and excel at Jack how could say a Clowney or a Robert K couldn't? Even Courtney didn't do it much at all so it isn't that important. I don't understand why they don't want to learn. The extent of learning they will do in the "4-3" is go get the QB. The system thing is BS for 4-3 coaches to fill Defensive ends heads with bullshite when recruiting against 3-4 teams like Bama and UGA.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:18 pm to Tim7105
RN doesn't want to play Jack, and Clowney preferred to stay home.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:19 pm to Tim7105
quote:Some DE's would rather have their hands down all the time and play DL rather than have to stand and cover and be a LB. Why should they learn to be an OLB in a 3-4 when they are already excelling at DE in a 4-3?
The system thing is BS for 4-3 coaches to fill Defensive ends heads with bullshite when recruiting against 3-4 teams like Bama and UGA.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:20 pm to dawg4lyfe
And the only reason he doesn't want to play it is coaches filled his head with incorrect BS. There is not a big difference physically from a regular DE and Alabama's Jack LB. Its mainly mental or the 3 times a season you cover the flat. If a recruit doesn't want to do that then they are mentally lazy.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:20 pm to AMM AU9893
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Some DE's would rather have their hands down all the time and play DL rather than have to stand and cover and be a LB. Why should they learn to be an OLB in a 3-4 when they are already excelling at DE in a 4-3?
There isn't a lot of difference in a JLB and a DE. DE's drop in coverage sometimes also...
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:21 pm to Tim7105
Or they want to rush the passer every down.
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:22 pm to AMM AU9893
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Some DE's would rather have their hands down all the time and play DL rather than have to stand and cover and be a LB. Why should they learn to be an OLB in a 3-4 when they are already excelling at DE in a 4-3?
How many times did you see Courtney Upshaw play with anything but his hand down? When teams pass we go Nickel anyway. We never make our Jacks cover. People filled Robert K's head with incorrect bullshite precisely to keep him from 3-4 teams.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:22 pm to Tim7105
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And the only reason he doesn't want to play it is coaches filled his head with incorrect BS.
How do you know this? Maybe he just likes Clemson better.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:23 pm to AMM AU9893
Tim- I mean absolutely NO disrespect here. You are a damn idiot. We sign more 5*'s in a five year stretch than some programs have signed since they were founded.
Trent Richardson - 5* RB
Julio Jones - 5* WR
Mark Barron - 5* S
Dre Kirkpatrick - 5* DB
Demarcus Milliner - 5* DB
Cyrus Koundjiou - 5* OT
HaHa Clinton-Dix - 5* S
Jesse Williams - 5* DT
Trey DePriest - 5* LB
Reggie Ragland - 5* LB
Ryan Anderson - 5* LB
TJ Yeldon - 5* RB
Eddie Williams - 5* ATH
Cyrus Jones - 5* WR
Landon Collins - 5* S
NOT TO MENTION:
Reuben Foster - 5* LB
Jonathan Allen - 5* OLB
Also.. that's only going back to 2008 and I didn't include Tyler Love or Phillip Sims. If your not able to appreciate that and see if for that it is, you should become a fan of a Sunbelt team and see if that will help out with that.
Trent Richardson - 5* RB
Julio Jones - 5* WR
Mark Barron - 5* S
Dre Kirkpatrick - 5* DB
Demarcus Milliner - 5* DB
Cyrus Koundjiou - 5* OT
HaHa Clinton-Dix - 5* S
Jesse Williams - 5* DT
Trey DePriest - 5* LB
Reggie Ragland - 5* LB
Ryan Anderson - 5* LB
TJ Yeldon - 5* RB
Eddie Williams - 5* ATH
Cyrus Jones - 5* WR
Landon Collins - 5* S
NOT TO MENTION:
Reuben Foster - 5* LB
Jonathan Allen - 5* OLB
Also.. that's only going back to 2008 and I didn't include Tyler Love or Phillip Sims. If your not able to appreciate that and see if for that it is, you should become a fan of a Sunbelt team and see if that will help out with that.
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:24 pm to crimson008
Anyone see Oregon being a threat to UGA and Bama for Kamara? Kamara would dominate in that offense.
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:26 pm to crimson008
Jonathan *Allen*
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:26 pm to dawg4lyfe
For all intents and purposes, Upshaw was a DE. I'd say 95% of the time he had his hand down and either rushed the passer or set the edge. Part of that probably had to do with his skill set. He played at 270+ and I noticed during the combine that he was stiff and not fluid at all when they had him dropping into coverage. Someone like Hubbard might be called on to drop into coverage more because it's something he's more capable of doing. But in general terms, a good pass rushing DE in a 4-3 will make a good Jack in a 3-4 and vice versa
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:26 pm to dawg4lyfe
Crimson that is great but that isn't my point. My point is that I don't mind losing guys to other good programs or when we were legit out worked for guys. I don't like how much pithy Bull shite that has nothing to do with football has worked against us. If kids made straight up football decisions you could add 6 more guys to that list easily.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:28 pm to Tim7105
quote:Well sorry, but not all guys will make their college decisions just based on football. Some people actually believe there's more to life than football, as crazy as that sounds
I don't like how much pithy Bull shite that has nothing to do with football has worked against us. If kids made straight up football decisions you could add 6 more guys to that list easily.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:28 pm to Tim7105
Life isn't all football believe it or not. Kids get career ending injuries, and need academics. Most kids don't even get drafted(including 5*'s). Academics are a huge part. Although that one recruit picked another school because of a Chik-Fil-A being close 
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:28 pm to dawg4lyfe
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Anyone see Oregon being a threat to UGA and Bama for Kamara? Kamara would dominate in that offense
If he doesn't mind the distance or Bama & UGA decide to slow play him, then I could see that. Agree that he would be well suited for their offense.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:29 pm to sarc
Exactly Sarc, this "doesn't fit the system" BS that 4-3 coaches are poisoning kids minds with is just part of the pithy BS that sucky programs are using now. Its not cheating per se but like the Package Deals it leaves a sour taste in your mouth. These guys wouldn't have to lie to kids if they had a decent program. The only way a guy like Robert K would believe that about Bama's system was Clemson, Auburn, everyone with a pulse was in his ear about it. Straight up lies.
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