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Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:56 pm to
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You can't pull on a guy like that if they are making forward progress. The fact he is committing the foul is a sign that forward progress has stopped.


“The fact that a player is being pulled towards the end zone is fact that the player isn’t heading towards the end zone”

Alabama logic
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:57 pm to
You seriously think a player can't have forward progress and also have a teammate help pull him at the same time? Seriously?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30931 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:58 pm to
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This is your problem. You're 100% wrong on this. You can help pull a guy and him still be moving forward. What alternate reality are you living in?



You can pull a guy forward sure, but you don't pull a guy who is already moving forward, you would be getting in his way.

Do you even know why the forward progress rule exists and why it's illegal to pull? It's for player safety. The moment someone starts to pull, they will basically always blow the whistle and that is where forward progress ends.

This is no different.


Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:59 pm to
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but you don't pull a guy who is already moving forward, you would be getting in his way.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:59 pm to
If they decline the penalty they don't mark it at the spot of the foul...


If they decline it, then the foul never happened...

Jesus.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 12:01 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:03 am to
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Nah, he kept churning his legs, pushing harder and further into the defenders chest.


I’ve posted the gif in this thread. Unfortunately for Tennessee fans, “the defenders chest” isn’t a distinguishable position on the football field. Just because a player’s body parts are moving doesn’t mean anything. If he’s not moving forward, forward progress is lost and the ball is dead. If that is even in question, the ball is dead.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30931 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:03 am to
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“The fact that a player is being pulled towards the end zone is fact that the player isn’t heading towards the end zone”

Alabama logic




Yeah, it's called being in the way. If you aren't in the way, it's because they aren't moving forward.

You do understand we are talking about if the penalty had been called right? The penalty will come out and the whistle will blow at the same time.

Feel free to show me a time when this penalty is called and it also did not coincide with the end of the play.

This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 12:04 am
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:04 am to
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Feel free to show me a time when this penalty is called and it also did not coincide with the end of the play.


Feel free to show me a time when the penalty was called.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30931 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:05 am to
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If they decline the penalty they don't mark it at the spot of the foul...


If they decline it, then the foul never happened...

Jesus.


Feel free to show me a time when this penalty was called and it did not also come with the end of the play.

Do you guys not understand that this rule is centered around forward progress?
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:05 am to
And when the runner had a reasonable chance of forward progress.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:05 am to
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Feel free to show me a time when the penalty was called.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:06 am to
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Do you guys not understand that this rule is centered around forward progress?


The problem is you're too stupid to understand that forward progress and someone pulling you are independent of each other and can occur at the same time.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16961 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:07 am to
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By your logic, linemen pushing a QB or RB across the line is illegal as well.

This is obvious! What you're saying isn't obvious!
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:11 am to
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Feel free to show me a time when this penalty was called and it did not also come with the end of the play


I've watched football for 30 years and I can recall it being called twice.

Once in the USC game against notre dame if memory serves me right where Matt Leinhart was pushed (not pulled) in and once in a peewee football game I played in where we pushed a guy in.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 12:13 am
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
4994 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:13 am to
The teammates can push a player but they cannot tug a player forward. Per the rules
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
4035 Vanderbilt Lane
Member since Dec 2013
37036 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:13 am to
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3dumb10

This stupid SOB thinks watching a YouTube video makes him an expert on whatever topic is being discussed

Covid (completely wrong), programming (he’s arse at it), flipping houses (lmao), being a ref, etc.,

He probably thinks cooking Hamburger Helper makes him a master chef.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30931 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:14 am to
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The problem is you're too stupid to understand that forward progress and someone pulling you are independent of each other and can occur at the same time.


Oh, so tell me why you think the rule exists if it's not dealing with situations like this where forward progress is in question.



Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:14 am to
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Once in the USC game against notre dame if memory serves me right where Matt Leinhart was pushed (not pulled) in


This was the game that many argue changed the rule. In that instance, it wasn’t called but absolutely should have been, and Notre Dame fans were rightfully livid.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30931 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:15 am to
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Feel free to show me a time when the penalty was called.



Aiding the runner

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30931 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 12:15 am to
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I've watched football for 30 years and I can recall it being called twice.

Once in the USC game against notre dame if memory serves me right where Matt Leinhart was pushed (not pulled) in and once in a peewee football game I played in where we pushed a guy in.



The USC play you are talking about wasn't called.

I've seen it called a few times, but never declined.
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