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re: “YOUUU CAN’T DO THAT” *Clap clap, clap clap clap*
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:15 pm to LSUgrad88
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:15 pm to LSUgrad88
This isn’t that hard. If you believe the ref correctly ruled forward progress dead, then you’re good with the result. If you are like me, and think he ruled forward progress stopped prematurely, it should have been a touchdown. And then we would be debating if the ref should have thrown a penalty for the pulling. But as a poster has pointed out, at least Tennessee would then have had the option of kicking a field goal if penalized for pulling (still seems utterly absurd you can push a teammate but can’t pull him).
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:18 pm to Tuscaloosa
The correctly determined as to forward progress part is far from clear, but I do recognize it’s a legit argument.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:19 pm to LSUgrad88
I agree completely. For the record, there was a play earlier in this game where a pass receiver's forward progress was stopped for a far longer period of time, yet he broke loose and that big ole' white boy ran it all the way down the sideline for a TD.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:35 pm to Tuscaloosa
You conveniently stop the gif before forward progress has stopped.
Here is where the forward progress has stopped. See the difference?
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:40 pm to Milf n Cookies
I stopped the gif at the point the ball stopping moving forward and began moving backwards. What happens after that is irrelevant, which is likely why Tennessee wasn’t flagged for assisting the runner.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:41 pm to Tuscaloosa
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I stopped the gif at the point the ball stopping moving forward and began moving backwards.
For 200 milliseconds?
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:43 pm to KellerChrystFan
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For 200 milliseconds?
Rules are rules, pal.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:43 pm to Tuscaloosa
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I stopped the gif at the point the ball stopping moving forward
You have a bizarre definition of "forward". In the last picture, the ball is clearly "forward" of any point in your gif, thus "forward progress" was not stopped. The picture tells the story.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:44 pm to Tuscaloosa
Guess we will never seen a "2nd effort" play ever made again in the game of football.
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Rules are rules, pal.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:46 pm to KellerChrystFan
Where does the madness end?!?
We should do away with dead balls all together. Just an absolute free for all. The Wild West!
You people are animals!
We should do away with dead balls all together. Just an absolute free for all. The Wild West!
You people are animals!
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:46 pm to Milf n Cookies
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In the last picture, the ball is clearly "forward" of any point in your gif
The play had already ended by that point. Sorry.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:50 pm to BluegrassBelle
You serious? By that logic, any offense could just commit a penalty to get another down.
The play is called down when a foul occurs. The defense declines the penalty.
It’s like some of you guys have never watched football.
The play is called down when a foul occurs. The defense declines the penalty.
It’s like some of you guys have never watched football.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:54 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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You serious? By that logic, any offense could just commit a penalty to get another down.
The play is called down when a foul occurs. The defense declines the penalty.
That's not how that works. If you decline the penalty it's a touchdown. They would've been forced to accept it. Just because a guy pulls him doesn't mean it always results in a good play for the offense forcing the defense to accept the penalty. Same as a hold on the offense...
I could be misunderstanding what you're replying to since the quote wasn't included.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:56 pm to KellerChrystFan
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Guess we will never seen a "2nd effort" play ever made again in the game of football.
Yes. According to Tuscaloosa, a considerable amount of Brian Robinson's yardage this season is illegitimate. I can't count the number of times I saw him stopped cold, only to break loose and keep going.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:57 pm to AllDayEveryDay
Pushing != lifting and pulling
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:58 pm to Milf n Cookies
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a considerable amount of Brian Robinson's yardage this season is illegitimate.
Start your own thread, you degenerate!
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:59 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Which would’ve been a replay of the down and another opportunity for Tennessee to get in correct?
Nope.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:05 pm to KellerChrystFan
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That's not how that works. If you decline the penalty it's a touchdown. They would've been forced to accept it. Just because a guy pulls him doesn't mean it always results in a good play for the offense forcing the defense to accept the penalty. Same as a hold on the offense...
I could be misunderstanding what you're replying to since the quote wasn't included.
The problem is that forward progress was stopped before the assisting the runner penalty. So it would not have been a touchdown, they would have called the assisting the runner penalty, declined because of forward progress stopped before breaking the plane, and end game.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:27 pm to Milf n Cookies
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I agree completely. For the record, there was a play earlier in this game where a pass receiver's forward progress was stopped for a far longer period of time, yet he broke loose and that big ole' white boy ran it all the way down the sideline for a TD.
He didn't have his own player pulling on him.
Progress is dead the moment that happens.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:28 pm to KellerChrystFan
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That's not how that works. If you decline the penalty it's a touchdown. They would've been forced to accept it. Just because a guy pulls him doesn't mean it always results in a good play for the offense forcing the defense to accept the penalty. Same as a hold on the offense...
I could be misunderstanding what you're replying to since the quote wasn't included.
Wrong. It is not a TD if you decline. The ball is placed at the spot of the foul even if you decline.
The only thing that is declined is the 5 yards, NOT where the ball is placed. The extra yard is not given no matter what is chosen.
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