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re: WTF? Kiper's 1st Mock Draft has Manziel #1 to Texans

Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:19 pm to
For the record I'm not the only person who has noticed:

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Will Brinson, Sr NFL Writer for @CBSSports ?@WillBrinson Dec 31

NFL tweets from 2014: "Johnny Manziel needs to clean up his body language if he wants to be a LEADER."


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G LeBreton @gilebreton Sports columnist for Fort Worth Star-Telegram
Johnny Manziel starting to show signs of dreaded, Bama-induced bad body language. Haven't seen him like this before.




Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:20 pm to
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despite a complete inability to provide any evidence.


Because I'm not going to look through every sideline shot of Manziel coming off the field.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:21 pm to
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because you're a fricking dumbass


Are you going to contribute to the convo or be an idiot?
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:21 pm to
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the scrub GA


That's still a coach
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:22 pm to
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You obviously haven't watched the kid play


I've seen over half his games the last two years.

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By all accounts of the people who are around him in a football setting the kid works hard studies the game and goes above and beyond to improve in the areas he needs to improve.


I never said any different. This is the problem y'all are not seeing. You're so used to defending Manziel you're just making things up.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:27 pm to
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This is the problem y'all are not seeing. You're so used to defending Manziel you're just making things up.


Actually no I am not making anything up. What I said is an opinion based on what you keep posting. I am simply pointing out what his coaches, teammates, and a lot of his opponents have said in regards to him. I am not trying to convince you of anything because your mind is made up and you are not going to change it. I am just providing a counter point to your repetive argument.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:29 pm to
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Actually no I am not making anything up.


I didn't say you in particular but Aggie fans are accusing me of things I never posted.


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I am just providing a counter point to your repetive argument.


You're bringing things into the conversation that I never disagreed with/said weren't true. That's my point.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148081 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:30 pm to
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Are you going to contribute to the convo or be an idiot
I can't top your idiocy but I'll try
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:32 pm to
So what's the point of discussion if whoever agrees with you is a dumb arse?
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:34 pm to
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You're bringing things into the conversation that I never disagreed with/said weren't true. That's my point.



Maybe not in actual words but your talking points are about his attitude and leadership and that's what I am talking about.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:36 pm to
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your talking points are about his attitude and leadership


No. My talking point is his bad body language. That's been the only thing I've mentioned about him the entire time. Anything else has been the creation of your Aggie brethren.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148081 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:38 pm to
This has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing and everything to do with you being a dumbass
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:39 pm to
Name calling instead of debating. Understandable.

Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:40 pm to
If you don't think that body language is tied to attitude and leadership then I can't help you. Like I said I'm not going to change your made up mind so I'm done.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148081 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:42 pm to
I'm so mad. So mad.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:42 pm to
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If you don't think that body language is tied to attitude and leadership then I can't help you.


No they are tied but you can be a good leader without having great body language.

I was merely making an observation that he has shown poor body language (like Cam Newton) that is uncharacteristic of most QB's. That's been it. You Aggies are a very sensitive bunch.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:43 pm to
With all that dumb name calling to someone you don't even know you must be.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148081 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:52 pm to
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Are you going to contribute to the convo or be an idiot?


I think it's apparent to everyone here who the idiot is except one person [cough, cough, Adam]

But I do think dumbass is more appropriate.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18581 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:58 pm to
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My talking point is his bad body language. That's been the only thing I've mentioned about him the entire time.


Odd that you castigate others for misrepresenting what you said in the very breath that you misrepresent what you said. Bad body language has NOT been the only thing you've mentioned. You also accused him of "fighting a coach" and "failing to accept responsibility" and "blaming others for his mistakes."

All are false, and all are claims you have made without bothering to back up.
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