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re: Whomever drafts Mallett will get a steal in the second

Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:19 pm to
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I'd take Mallett over Ponder any day of the week, that being said Ponder was picked waaaaay too high. Vikings are essentially betting their short term future on a guy who has had a lot of trouble staying healthy.


This is the same franchise who thought Tavaris Jackson was going to be their future...
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:21 pm to
I tried to tell you guys but no one wanted to listen.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:22 pm to
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glad i'm not a titans fan. what a shitty draft pick


Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:24 pm to
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That is what made a couple other QB's more worthy of being picked ahead of him but slipping past the first? Mallett is a gamer and will be a steal at this point.


Sam Bradford helped the QBs who ran spreads in college more than the QBs did for themselves this year, IMO.

The thing about Mallett's alleged drug use is he never failed a drug test while at Arkansas. If he was/is a user and wasn't experimenting during his college years, if a drug issue is still present a hair follicle test would clear the issue up.

If you look at the CB out or Colorado, he failed 4+ drug tests while at Colorado and his bookface page was full of pictures associated with drugs/drug culture. The Raven's still took him in the first round.

I do not think teams traded up or took Mallett with their first pick because it was the general consensus they would be able to get him with one of their later picks. There always seems to be a player or two who enter this "draft slide" for whatever reason each year.

This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 12:25 pm
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:25 pm to
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I do not think teams traded up or took Mallett with their first pick because it was the general consensus they would be able to get him with one of their later picks. There always seems to be a player or two who enter this "draft slide" for whatever reason each year.


exactly. But his slide isn't surprising.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 12:26 pm
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:26 pm to
I think most of it was the way he talks and carries himself. In his defense though, you tend to pick up the speech and nuances of said speech from whom you spend the most time with. For instance remember when Madonna moved to England an then all of a sudden she picked up a bad cockney accent. Same thing. Mallett = Madonna.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:26 pm to
Mallett will be a steal. As far as the speculation as to why he fell as far as he has, my guess is it is because of the PR issue, his marketability. Even if a team thinks he's clean and has no real issues they may pass on him because of the perception that he has some serious issues.

I would think at this juncture that if there were some real "red flags" in his past they would have surfaced by now.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 12:28 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:28 pm to
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Is it the drug use that plummeted his stock?


No, the knock on Mallett is his technique and consistency. He is not a technician with his footwork and release, he doesn't throw a great spiral, and the ball tends to sail on him.

Obviously he's got a great arm and great size, but he isn't a finished product at this point.

Plus, it is pretty clear he is lacking in the mental capacity department.

Finally, teams are shying away from Petrino QBs.

Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:29 pm to
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But his slide isn't surprising.


It is because there isn't a definitive reason, only allegations and rumors that have not been publicly proven or dis-proven.

It isn't like the Bowers kid who is sliding because he has a fricked up knee...
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:29 pm to
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He is not a technician with his footwork and release, he doesn't throw a great spiral, and the ball tends to sail on him. Obviously he's got a great arm and great size, but he isn't a finished product at this point. Plus, it is pretty clear he is lacking in the mental capacity department.


And yet Cam goes first?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:31 pm to
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I think he is the most NFL-ready


Not even close. Again, he doesn't have great technique or consistency.

LINK

If you are going to draft a QB with bad technique, clearly you take Newton over Mallett.

Gabbert is the most polished.

Locker is the best athlete.

Ponder is the smartest.

Mallett is a big, dumb, strong armed QB with inconsistent performance and footwork.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:31 pm to
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It is because there isn't a definitive reason, only allegations and rumors that have not been publicly proven or dis-proven.


there is a definitive reason. His play on the field and all these rumors about how people know stuff that we don't on him.

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It isn't like the Bowers kid who is sliding because he has a fricked up knee...


I thought a team would at least take a chance on him in the 20's
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:33 pm to
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It is because there isn't a definitive reason


There are several very definitive reasons for it, and it has relatively little to do with character.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:34 pm to
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And yet Cam goes first?


Way more upside, plus he's been a winner at every stop.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:38 pm to
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Way more upside, plus he's been a winner at every stop.



Including Florida?

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:38 pm to
LINK /

Another scouting report saying the same things.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:38 pm to
Well he didn't play at Florida, so that is a dumbass comment.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42849 posts
Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:40 pm to
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Well he didn't play at Florida, so that is a dumbass comment.



So he wasn't good enough to play at Florida, which was a stop, where he was a "winner" at.

If this was what matters, McElroy would be off the board as he has lost what 3 games in his life...
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:42 pm to
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So he wasn't good enough to play at Florida,



be was behind Tebow on a team that was winning NCs

not that I'm a big Cam Newton fan... but that is a silly argument
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:42 pm to
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So he wasn't good enough to play at Florida, which was a stop, where he was a "winner" at.


Are you for real, dude?

1) This isn't a Mallett/Newton comparison thread.
2) We all know the reason Newton didn't play - there was this guy named Tim Tebow who had the position on lock.

Stop being a dumbass.
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