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re: Who will last longer in the NFL, Young or Nix?

Posted on 9/19/24 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
12716 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 6:57 pm to
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1. Tell me the best QB they played aside from young.

2. Tell me what the difference was between the first matchup and the second matchup. There was a key player who got hurt in the second one


The Panthers ruined him by playing him with a crap team around him. That's all I'm trying to tell you.

Three current starting NFL QBs played vs. us that year.

This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Dynamite99
Member since Sep 2021
34 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:40 pm to
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The Panthers ruined him by playing him with a crap team around him. That's all I'm trying to tell you

Three current starting NFL QBs played vs. us that year


I'm assuming Daniels is one of them (correct me if I'm wrong). Name the others?

Dude, he was never going to be good in the NFL. Teams know how to play him because he has been exposed since college. Teams in the college copied and teams in the NFL have taken and tweaked the strategy Texas A&M used on him in his sophomore year, which was to overload one side of the LOS, play deep, and force him to throw quick to the middle. We seen the Saints flip this and overload both sides of the line with simulated pressure. It consistently works on him. I didn't watch the chargers game so I couldn't tell you if they did it, but teams already know that:

He's not good in the pocket

He's not good enough of an athlete to be an out of the pocket player

His arm is not strong enough to make unorthodox plays within the pocket while playing off platform, that I've seen people who have analysed his tape have pointed out.


It was always going to be this way.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
3417 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:05 pm to
Nix simply because Young has been in the league a year longer. Young’s arm is average, he’s has average mobility and Carolina has destroyed whatever confidence he had when he played at Alabama.

Someone will trade for him in the offseason (if someone was willing to trade for Zach Wilson and Trey Lance someone will trade for Bryce) but his career in the NFL will more than likely be over soon.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36616 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:06 pm to
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This article on Young is pretty spot on. With what we've seen with guys like Love and Rodgers with the Packers, the Falcons pick of Penix may have been a smart move.

Playing some of these guys early with terrible offensive rosters is killing them and removing any chance for them to truly see growth.

Bryce Young

I was never sold on Nix, but I can't think Denver's team situation is good for him.

But Young is missing throws he clearly could make with ease at Bama. He faced pressure there as Bama's Oline wasn't nearly as good as it was with Jones and Tua. So I don't think it's just facing NFL defenses. The windows are tighter, but he had pinpoint accuracy at Bama. Better than Tua's or Mac's.


Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
5419 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:11 pm to
Mac Jones is a career backup. I got a lot of flack in here for stating the obvious. That said, being a backup in the NFL is a far cry from where Young could end up soon. Out of the league altogether
Posted by theballguy
Between Colorado & DC
Member since Oct 2011
29115 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:34 pm to
Hard to say. Not enough info on either of these guys.

Who will make money though ... either of these guys or you?

I'll bet on these guys.
Posted by theballguy
Between Colorado & DC
Member since Oct 2011
29115 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:35 pm to
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I was never sold on Nix, but I can't think Denver's team situation is good for him.


Nix's biggest problem right now is Sean Payton.
Posted by theballguy
Between Colorado & DC
Member since Oct 2011
29115 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:36 pm to
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Look what happened when UGA put pressure on him in the national championship game.



He destroyed Georgia in the SECCG.

He had no one to throw to in the NCG.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
12716 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 6:43 am to
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I'm assuming Daniels is one of them (correct me if I'm wrong). Name the others?


No. We're talking 2021. The year he won the Heisman. We did not play Daniels n 2021.

Nix, Levis, Richardson. They all look better than Bryce now. They all looked way worse than Bryce then. Well, Nix is a close call. He may look as bad.
Posted by Dynamite99
Member since Sep 2021
34 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:48 am to
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No. We're talking 2021. The year he won the Heisman. We did not play Daniels n 2021.

Nix, Levis, Richardson. They all look better than Bryce now. They all looked way worse than Bryce then. Well, Nix is a close call. He may look as bad.


In other words, no QB's who were considered dynamic or real game changers as passers. So, your point about who played the best against Georgia doesn't hold anywhere near the weight you think it does.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 7:50 am
Posted by NtxSooner
McKinney Tx
Member since Jul 2021
153 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 8:28 am to
JF flamed out not because of a lack of size or talent, they are not the same. I watched that kid roll OU in person, and Young couldnt do what he did that day.
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