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re: Who melts harder when our new Georgia overlords take over CFB with a NC?

Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:03 pm to
LSU fan here. I would much rather Georgia win than Alabama. Saban, and Bama, have taken the fun out of SEC football this decade. It's high time for a new boss.
Posted by Bleus
Northern Virginia,DC
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:22 pm to
The dynasty is over.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:27 pm to
LSU doesn't care as long as it's not Alabama. They seem to watch Bama games as intently as we do.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:31 pm to
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meh.... 2 weeks of bull shite games after playing us helped. not to mention a non healthy kerryon and our best cb and lb out the second half when they pulled away.



Im sorry y'all don’t have quality depth.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:37 pm to
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as long as it's not Alabama

Or Florida, or Auburn. Anyone else is OK
Posted by AmericusDawg
Member since Oct 2012
8577 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:17 pm to
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Honestly I'm not concerned at all.


That's what makes it so awesome though. You literally have no idea how fricked you are. At least you can save the toilet paper to clean up the mess.


49 million dollars with a depth chart like that. Big Cat didn't even want to go there. Poor kid wanted to go to LSU


Good luck with the not caring routine every November.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:20 pm to
As a Gator fan who watched Muschamp literally destroy multiple 5* players in different positions all over the field -- I would definitely melt the hardest if Kirby somehow made it work where Muschamp could not.

Stars are great, but you still have to churn them out. Kirby's still gotta show that he can gameplan, if he beats Oklahoma and then Clemson/Alabama, then it's time to start worrying -- all of those teams outside of Oky have high-caliber gameplanners.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:41 pm to
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then it's time to start worrying


Looks like your fellow fans are already worried:

Georgia officially a problem
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:47 pm to
TJ said the same thing about Willie Taggart. I think he roots for other teams more than he does for his own.

He's like the reverse Homer. He was just whining so hard about McElwain winning an easy East when this has been, arguably, the worst the East ever.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:06 am to
Yeah the East wasn't great this year. I think y'all will improve as will UT unless Pruitt becomes unhinged. He's kind of a wild card.

I know you wanted Kelly but Mullen is a good hire. I'd like to see the East improve overall if for no other reason than to shut the various flavors of Bama dickriders up.
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 12:09 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39337 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:12 am to
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Kirby's still gotta show that he can gameplan, if he beats Oklahoma and then Clemson/Alabama, then it's time to start worrying


You should be worried after that SECCG.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:13 am to
Tennessee literally cannot get any worse. They just need to forget this season like Florida.

As for Kelly -- in the end it was a much better hire for us. We knida figured Kelly would be at Florida max four years. I don't think he's done with the NFL so we may have dodged a bullet with that one.

East will be better next year -- South Carolina is rising if only because of poor quality around them, UT can't get worse, UF (fingers crossed) won't enter into next season without 12 players, KY is rising, Vanderbilt will always be Vanderbilt and Mizzou seemed to find their identity.

A lot of people don't want strong conferences, but in a lot of ways it helps to fight iron men instead of straw men. Alabama got in on their name alone over USC *and* OSU, and it's because usually the SEC is good.

Hopefully we improved the quality with Kirby, Mullen and Pruitt (but we have no idea what he's gonna be like).
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:22 am to
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You should be worried after that SECCG.


Not even remotely. Auburn ran through a really, really tough schedule and came in banged up. You guys played Kentucky and Georga Tech, they played ULM (I think, too lazy to look it up) and Alabama.

They had a demonstrably harder schedule and couldn't get it done in the end. You should be worried that maybe, just maybe, you guys got lucky with your schedule -- not that it was asked for, but there isn't a single offense outside of Georgia and Missouri below 100 in the East. All of the defenses outside of Georgia and Florida are outside of 50.

It'll be interesting at the very least against Oklahoma, but you'll see where the men are made against Clemson/Alabama.
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 12:27 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:32 am to
They had one banged up RB going into the game, and he played until the game got out of hand. Its that game combined with the 2017 and 2018 recruiting classes that should have you worried.
Posted by Razor Dawg
Decatur
Member since Dec 2017
707 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:36 am to
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All of the defenses outside of Georgia and Florida are outside of 50.



About the 50th time you made this insipid point.Take a look at our non SECE opponents defensive rankings if you want to play that game.Samford was the only team thAt wasn't a top 50 defense.MSU,AU,ND,GT and APP St made the cut.SCe was top 50 as well BTW.

Total of 7 (AU twice)
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 12:38 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:42 am to
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They had one banged up RB going into the game, and he played until the game got out of hand.


He touched it 13 times as opposed to 32 times and was clearly not 100%, I mean, he could barely extend for a stiff-arm. Why is this the trench you want to die in? Just accept that he wasn't playing at full potential and move on.

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the 2017 and 2018 recruiting classes that should have you worried.


They're great recruiting classes, but I come from a school that in 2010 had the best recruiting class in the nation. 5 5* players, 17 4* players. .9399 Average.

In 2012 we had the #3 ranked class.

In 2013 we had the #3 ranked class.

In 2014 we went 4 - 8.

I've seen a coach who, exactly as Kirby, had no experience as an HC. He didn't know how to manage a roster, and didn't know how to scheme his style around his players.

Jeff Driskel, for what it's worth, was the #1 Quarterback in the country for his class.

Maybe Kirby's really different, but I watched Muschamp run through the SEC (outside of Georgia) on Meyer's players, and when it came time to managing the roster, simply could not do it.
Posted by kbrake37
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2016
3094 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:51 am to
I think Alabama and then every team from the west that has been using Alabama as a crutch for losing each year. I dont know how those guys are going to rationalize losing to the tide now and the imaginary strength of the SEC we at. Especially LSU and the Mississippii schools
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39337 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:54 am to
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He touched it 13 times as opposed to 32 times and was clearly not 100%, I mean, he could barely extend for a stiff-arm. Why is this the trench you want to die in? Just accept that he wasn't playing at full potential and move on.


The less first downs you get, the less touches you get.

When you are losing by 21 rather than winning by 21, the less rushes a RB is gonna get.

He was hurt, but not to the extent folks claim. He was still running very hard. Its not like he had a hurt ankle, and couldnt explode downfield. He simply didnt have the same holes that were there in game 1. You continue to ignore how badly their OL got beat by our front 7 in game 2.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39337 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 1:06 am to
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I've seen a coach who, exactly as Kirby, had no experience as an HC. He didn't know how to manage a roster, and didn't know how to scheme his style around his players. Maybe Kirby's really different, but I watched Muschamp run through the SEC (outside of Georgia) on Meyer's players, and when it came time to managing the roster, simply could not do it.


There are no guarantees, but I think a big difference is that Kirby was instrumental in the success of the most successful program run of modern CFB, while Muschamp hopped around under dinosaur coaches like Tubberville and Mack Brown.

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Jeff Driskel, for what it's worth, was the #1 Quarterback in the country for his class.


Good point. Another key difference. Muschamp couldn't develop a QB, and in turn never had a quality offense. Kirby already found his QB, and has one of the best offenses in the nation. He followed Fromm up with the perfect Qb for mullen's system.
Posted by Razor Dawg
Decatur
Member since Dec 2017
707 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 1:10 am to
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I've seen a coach who, exactly as Kirby, had no experience as an HC


Why do you keep making this point?Boom's success or lack there of at UF has NOTHING to do with what CKS is doing at UGA.


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He didn't know how to manage a roster, and didn't know how to scheme his style around his players.

Just the opposite of what CKS has done this year

Jeff Driskel, for what it's worth, was the #1 Quarterback in the country for his class.


Compare what CKS has done with Fromm to what Boom did with Driskel...night and day.
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