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re: When Does The Alabama Dynasty End?

Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:11 pm to
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This aggie is an obvious troll. I guess I would troll too if I pulled for an irrelevant team like TAMU.


Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:12 pm to
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Again, which of the 7 wasn't more impressive?

None of them were more impressive. LSU was the GTOA with a sick defense, special teams, OL and running game. It's not the fact that Alabama beat the GTOA, it's the way we did it. You can rag on JJ all you want, but LSU was averaging close to 40 points a game, so it's not like they were some sluggish team having to win games 13-10 through the season. They were smashing people, and socring tons of points. And Bama dominated a great team in such a way that it is more impressive than any other game in college history. Maybe sports history. Or perhaps world history. Maybe bigger than that, really.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:23 pm to
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None of them were more impressive.


You're cute.

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You can rag on JJ all you want, but LSU was averaging close to 40 points a game,


That is remarkable. You're right, this is definitely an all-time great stat line: 86th in total offense, 106th in passing, 22nd in rushing, 17th in points per game.



Roll Tide I guess.



Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41062 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:23 pm to
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TeLeFaWx


I'm really starting to like this guy.





And just....stop....with the bullshite of LSU being a high scoring team last year. We scored a lot of points in spite of our qb and offense, not because of them. A ton of our points came from a great defense and superb special teams, and running the ball down the throat of inferior SEC teams. We pushed Oregon and West Virginia around, but the SEC was, by and large, pretty weak last year.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41062 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:25 pm to
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And Bama dominated a great team in such a way that it is more impressive than any other game in college history. Maybe sports history. Or perhaps world history. Maybe bigger than that, really.


It was bigger than D-Day.
Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12112 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:26 pm to
Yeah


Despite how much we averaged per game last year, it was mostly due to the defense
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:27 pm to
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I'm really starting to like this guy.




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We pushed Oregon and West Virginia around, but the SEC was, by and large, pretty weak last year.


But you did manage to score 41 on a really really really good Arkansas defense and managed to break the unthinkable 50 point barrier against Ole Miss.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:29 pm to
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None of them were more impressive. LSU was the GTOA with a sick defense, special teams, OL and running game. It's not the fact that Alabama beat the GTOA, it's the way we did it. You can rag on JJ all you want, but LSU was averaging close to 40 points a game, so it's not like they were some sluggish team having to win games 13-10 through the season. They were smashing people, and socring tons of points. And Bama dominated a great team in such a way that it is more impressive than any other game in college history. Maybe sports history. Or perhaps world history. Maybe bigger than that, really.

06 UF against Ohio St.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41062 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:36 pm to
You replace every man on the 2011 team with either the 03 or 07 team and we would have had a much more balanced team. World class D and special teams plus a shitty offense is always going to result in disappointment. Anyone who couldn't see a letdown coming after the Arkansas game and the SEC Championship was blind.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:36 pm to
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Despite how much we averaged per game last year, it was mostly due to the defense


- Your offense scored 56 touchdowns in 14 games in 2011.

For reference;
- Cam Newton scored 51 touchdowns in 2010.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41062 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:38 pm to
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- Your offense scored 56 touchdowns in 14 games in 2011.


How many were passing?
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:50 pm to
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You replace every man on the 2011 team with either the 03 or 07 team and we would have had a much more balanced team. World class D and special teams plus a shitty offense is always going to result in disappointment. Anyone who couldn't see a letdown coming after the Arkansas game and the SEC Championship was blind.

Y'all won both of those games easily though.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27059 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:52 pm to
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TeLeFaWx


SIGH, you fricked up your post count, YOU CAN NEVER GET BACK THE SACRED 1234.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27059 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:55 pm to
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228Tiger


wait, so your saying your offense production was because of your defense???? wut??
Posted by bamascott2
XIV
Member since Apr 2009
9671 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:55 pm to
BAMA DYNASTY, BITCHES!!!

And...


Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41062 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 3:00 pm to
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Y'all won both of those games easily though.


Yeah, after some awesome punt returns and a stifling defense. All the offense had to do was not frick it all up.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45940 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 3:08 pm to
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I know this is just a troll thread, but I do think it's funny how on 1/8 LSU was considered one of the best teams in BCS history, and one day later they were suddenly viewed as a JV team or something


This can be reversed too. On 1/8, Bama fans loved to mention our offense was mediocre and I even remember a specific thread that questioned if LSU would even score. But now after the fact, stopping our offense was an amazing task?

Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45940 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 3:09 pm to
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Y'all won both of those games easily though.


Without TM7's punt return TDs, we lose both those games IMO.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 3:21 pm to
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How many were passing?


https://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/99/lsu-tigers

21 I believe.

- Averaging 1.3 passing TDs per game against conference opponents, and 2 passing TDs per game against non-conference opponents.
- If you throw out the Tennessee and Auburn games(where Jarrett Lee was playing something he didn't do against Alabama in January)LSU only managed 7 passing TDs in 8 games against the SEC.
- JJ didn't have a multi-passing TD game all year, and averaged .6 passing TDs per game... 0.556 per game against the SEC.


In contrast:

- Tyler Wilson averaged 1.75 TDs per conference game.
- Tyler Bray averaged 1.50 TDs per conference game.
- AJ McCarron averaged 1.22 TDs per conference game.
- Jordan Rodgers averaged 1.22 TDs per conference game. *excluding the two games he played garbage time.
- Aaron Murray averaged 1.11 TDs per conference game.
- Connor Shaw averaged 1.00 TDs per conference game.
- Barrett Trotter averaged 1.00 TDs per conference game.
- Clint Moseley averaged 1.00 TDs per conference game. *excluding the Arkansas game
- John Brantley averaged 0.833 TDs per conference game.
- Randall Mackey averaged 0.833 TDs per conference game.
- Tyler Russell averaged 0.75 TDs per conference game.
- Maxwell Smith averaged 0.57 TDs per conference game.



So. As you can see. There literally wasn't a worse QB in the SEC at throwing touchdowns than JJ.
This post was edited on 7/8/12 at 3:22 pm
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 3:24 pm to
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Without TM7's punt return TDs, we lose both those games IMO.

Well the margin of victory was 24 in the Arky game and 32 in the SEC title game, so...
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