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re: What do you want the sentence to be on Updyke
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:13 am to UASports23
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:13 am to UASports23
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I was just pointing out some posters made it sound like he could have killed so many things other than the Oaks.
It certainly isn't out of the realm. Aubie the mascot often eats under the Oaks, and the Tigerettes often frolic with recruits under the Oaks as well. They could have been harmed by the poison dispensed by Updyke. I have also heard Spirit used to get squirrels from the Oaks. It could have been disastrous indeed.
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:19 am to 10888bge
50 yd line seats....front row...at all Bama home games
And a shout-out by the PA at halftime and face-time on big screen
not to mention a statue outside of BDS
And a shout-out by the PA at halftime and face-time on big screen
not to mention a statue outside of BDS
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:20 am to 10888bge
It's probably been mentioned already but I hope everyone realizes he did commit a "hate crime" for whatever that's worth.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:22 am to lsusteve1
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50 yd line seats....front row...at all Bama home games And a shout-out by the PA at halftime and face-time on big screen
are you sure you want him roaming free?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:22 am to That One
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Historical significance or any significance for that matter will be looked upon differently. Apparently, he did not poison "any" tree. He did it with an intent to hurt/affect the whole population associated with a university in some form.
I guess there will be a lot of discretion used in his sentencing that can set a precedence for such act if there's not one. A year in jail is not too harsh, IMO. This will stop people from vandalizing things that matter to a large population.
Well said. I don't think the signifigance of the trees should make a difference in the charges. It should absolutely make a difference at sentencing.
Why some people don't get this, I don't understand.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:27 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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I hope everyone realizes he did commit a "hate crime"
What was the "violent crime committed on the basis of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation of any person?"
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:28 am to genro
Good lord, it was a joke man.
Humor is lost on the dumb.
Humor is lost on the dumb.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:29 am to genro
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"violent crime
A hate crime doesnt have to be violent BTW
ETA; and if you are going to quote something at least do it correctly
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:34 am to lsusteve1
quote:an LSU fan bringing this up makes me chuckle.
50 yd line
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:39 am to Hamstonian
He's destroyed something that is irreplaceable. That should certainly be factored into the sentencing. He didn't just illegally poison trees, he poisoned trees that have significant meaning for a substantial group of people.
There's a difference. There's a difference between ripping up a piece of loose-leaf paper and ripping up the Composition Draft of the Declaration of Independence, even though both are inanimate. There's a difference in throwing paint on someone's fur coat and throwing paint on the Mona Lisa. There would be a difference between busting up the sidewalk in front of my house and busting up the handprints on the Walk of Champions.
When you destroy something that's irreplaceable and meaningful, it goes beyond simple vandalism and mischief. Add to that the fact that he put poisonous chemicals into the ground without knowing what the hell he was doing, and I'm all for the guy serving a couple of years in jail, along with fines, restitution, and not being allowed anywhere near college football.
Frick that guy. Seriously. And, honestly, frick anyone who says what he did "isn't that bad."
There's a difference. There's a difference between ripping up a piece of loose-leaf paper and ripping up the Composition Draft of the Declaration of Independence, even though both are inanimate. There's a difference in throwing paint on someone's fur coat and throwing paint on the Mona Lisa. There would be a difference between busting up the sidewalk in front of my house and busting up the handprints on the Walk of Champions.
When you destroy something that's irreplaceable and meaningful, it goes beyond simple vandalism and mischief. Add to that the fact that he put poisonous chemicals into the ground without knowing what the hell he was doing, and I'm all for the guy serving a couple of years in jail, along with fines, restitution, and not being allowed anywhere near college football.
Frick that guy. Seriously. And, honestly, frick anyone who says what he did "isn't that bad."
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:39 am to 10888bge
Jail time, community service, and ankle monitor every Sept-Jan for life, with no access to Auburn or Alabama's campus.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:40 am to Butt Guster
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Good lord, it was a joke man.
Humor is lost on the dumb
To genro harvey is serious business...not joking allowed.
Also, creepy facebook type picture of jay barker.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:42 am to genro
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What was the "violent crime committed on the basis of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation of any person?"
Penalty-enhancement hate crime laws are traditionally justified on the grounds that, in Chief Justice Rehnquist's words, "this conduct is thought to inflict greater individual and societal harm.... bias-motivated crimes are more likely to provoke retaliatory crimes, inflict distinct emotional harms on their victims, and incite community unrest."
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:42 am to BamaNixon
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He's destroyed something that is irreplaceable. That should certainly be factored into the sentencing. He didn't just illegally poison trees, he poisoned trees that have significant meaning for a substantial group of people.
There's a difference. There's a difference between ripping up a piece of loose-leaf paper and ripping up the Composition Draft of the Declaration of Independence, even though both are inanimate. There's a difference in throwing paint on someone's fur coat and throwing paint on the Mona Lisa. There would be a difference between busting up the sidewalk in front of my house and busting up the handprints on the Walk of Champions.
When you destroy something that's irreplaceable and meaningful, it goes beyond simple vandalism and mischief. Add to that the fact that he put poisonous chemicals into the ground without knowing what the hell he was doing, and I'm all for the guy serving a couple of years in jail, along with fines, restitution, and not being allowed anywhere near college football.
Frick that guy. Seriously. And, honestly, frick anyone who says what he did "isn't that bad."
For every 10 posts by the Harvey apologist, we occasionally get a breath of fresh air.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:43 am to BamaNixon
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BamaNixon
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:44 am to BamaNixon
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BamaNixon
How is it you have an ATPB join date, yet a post as solid as this?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:45 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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For every 10 posts by the Harvey apologist, we occasionally get a breath of fresh air.
Truth.
to you BamaNixon.Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:46 am to piggidyphish
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How is it you have an ATPB join date, yet a post as solid as this?
Don't let him fool you...his first post is about W&L's guarantee that we gonna gonna get smacked back to the stone age.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:47 am to genro
It's almost the equivalent of burning a church down IMO.
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