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re: what do u think about it?

Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:46 am to
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:46 am to
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well the sec refuses to address the issues of shitty refs. slive and redding go out of their way to protect their refs instead of making them improve.

the sec refuses to even admit when they miss a call so fat chance that the refs get better.


Then why should we trust them to reliably enforce ANY rules?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:47 am to
comparing holding to a celebration is laughable

the holding has the slightest chance of changing a play even if its not near the ball. a celebration will never change a play and should never take points off the board.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:48 am to
we shouldn't because they dont. so we shouldn't give them even more ways to frick the better team.

this argument is never going to end. you like robots and want to see that only, i like games with some celebration and excitement being shown.
Posted by Chimlim
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:51 am to
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The change would mean, for example, that if a player makes a taunting gesture to an opponent on the way to scoring a touchdown, the flag would nullify the score and penalize the offending team from the spot of the foul.


In theory, it's a good idea, but I hope it doesn't get out of control like the excessive celebration penalty, which was designed to keep teams from disrespecting their opponents, but has turned into a complete joke.

Are we going have replays to determine whether a player began celebrating before he crossed the goal line?
This post was edited on 6/17/11 at 8:53 am
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:53 am to
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comparing holding to a celebration is laughable

the holding has the slightest chance of changing a play even if its not near the ball. a celebration will never change a play and should never take points off the board.


You know you have nothing to worry about if your players just don't decide that its all about them, right?

Just run the ball in, give the ball to the ref (or place it on the ground), proceed to your sideline, celebrate! I know LSU players are pretty dumb, but that's a pretty easy set of basic steps.
Posted by Chimlim
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:54 am to
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Then probably the smart thing to do is run the football in the end zone (do not find someone to point at or high step or boogie woogie or funky chicken), give the ball to the ref (or drop it to the ground), go to your teammates and celebrate with them.


Sad part is, these types of situations have been called 'excessive celebration' before.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:56 am to
well our dumb one doesn't get in the endzone often so we dont have to worry about jj.

plus lets not act like cam is some great scholar.

its boring as shite to not have fun after you score. if the other team doesn't like it leave the sec and go to the big 10 or stop them.

crying about celebrations is like crying at a team for putting in its back ups and still running up the score.
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:56 am to
I am absolutely in favor of it.

If the players can't regulate their behavior and sportsmanship on their own, then the NCAA needs to step in and do what's right for the sport.

We wouldn't have this issue if the players wouldn't routinely act like assholes, in order to draw attention to THEMSELVES.

Football is not about individualism. It is the ultimate team sport. Some people apparently need more persuasion to honor the game and their own team.

I know it's all going to blow up in week one because someone is going to screw up, and national debate will ignite over it. But I am going to support the rule 100%. Even if it means a loss for LSU. I love the game of football. I love the game more than I love the players. Some people see that vice-versa... I respect that... but I completely disagree with it.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:57 am to
how is the sport being hurt? the sport is better than its ever been and the celebrations have been toned down alot in the last 20 years.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:59 am to
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its boring as shite to not have fun after you score. if the other team doesn't like it leave the sec and go to the big 10 or stop them.


This new rule has nothing to do with celebrating after you score. That rule ALREADY exists.

I bet players from the 1950's, 60's, and 70's never had any "fun".
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:00 am to
fwiw the worst celebrations and taunts that occur today are from the defensive side of the ball on normal tackles or dirty hits from nick fairly

Im just not seeing how anything other than uga 07 is hurting the game as far as celebrations. I think yall are blowing the level of what is happening what out of proportion.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:02 am to
to me its just a rule that is not needed the game isn't being hurt and its not like people are celebrating up and down the field on every single run. Im just not seeing it its really not that bad. I could understand if this was still the 80s but its not.

even then i don't see the big deal in it as long as its not crazy and even then points shouldn't come off the board.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:03 am to
So does this TD get negated?

Unsportsmanlike at 0:22
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:03 am to
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Im just not seeing how anything other than uga 07 is hurting the game as far as celebrations. I think yall are blowing the level of what is happening what out of proportion.


One of my favorite moments of the NFL of all time is when George Teague ( ) knocked the shite out of Terrell Owens.

Poor Terrell... he was only having "fun"!
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:04 am to
see that is how you handle something when you feel you were being taunted. you fricking do what he did. you dont have the refs take points off the scoreboard for no fricking reason.

that will ruin the game more than any celebration when a team gets called for something that shouldn't draw a penalty and it cost them the game

much like locker and washington that year vs byu.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:04 am to
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So does this TD get negated?


No.

Foul occurred after the TD had been scored.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:05 am to
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see that is how you handle something when you feel you were being taunted. you fricking do what he did. you dont have the refs take points off the scoreboard for no fricking reason.


That is a recipe for fricking disaster.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:05 am to
nah because he raised it after the score. i think its still a td and then just 15 on kick off.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:06 am to
not really all out brawls aren't going to occur every week because of it.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:10 am to
im still wondering how yall think the last few years taunting has been so bad.

i really can't think of any instances lately where its been really bad and this penalty would wipe points off.

I know ole miss has been flagged twice in a row for diving in the endzone vs LSU but both were horse shite calls because guys were close enough to catch them. with the rule yall like that bullshite penalty that only hurts them a little will now take points off the board.
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