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re: What did the NCAA find out between 3PM yesterday and 3PM today?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:38 am to coachcrisp
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:38 am to coachcrisp
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You're biased, and want to blame EVERYTHING pertaining to the virus on Trump!
In this case...Trump's administration screwed up the response. It would have been a bad hand no matter what but you can play a bad hand if you handle it well. Trump and his political plan of casting doubt on truth got in the way this time.
That being said...much of what is being suggested at this point by the administration is sound and they should deserve credit for pulling their heads out of the ostrich holes.
Simply look at Trump's tweets and you can see where he, in the early days of this, worked actively against the recommendations of his own medical professionals.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 9:41 am
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:40 am to Tigerman97
Wow! A level-headed and reasonable response.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:05 am to PlateJohnsonIII
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If you honestly believe trump was using the term "hoax" to calm people rather than pass the buck then there is no point in arguing with you.
Here's some articles on the subject I found in 5 minutes of googling, so it's very clear you are being willfully ignorant. Trump's tweets are a lot more telling, but I know you already follow him on twitter.
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Oh, and this last one is an opinion piece from a Republican:
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I read all the fake news links you posted, even the one from the vehement, Trump hating "Republican" which was overwhelmed by his contempt for Trump.
Did you notice that throughout them all, they were basically targeting Trump, but nearly all the actual alleged blame fell on people within the CDC.
I'll leave you with this.......why are ALL these links from left wing sources? Do you not read other views, or are those the only places you can find such slanted opinions for your retort?
There's obviously been missteps in the beginning (without that 20-20 hindsight) by people within the CDC, and/or other involved agencies, but to shower down the criticisms and accusations from the left on a President who, like all others, must depend on the words on the experts in matters such as this, I find petty, narrow minded and divisive.
EDIT: By the way, I don't even like Trump's personality. I find him abrasive, and obnoxious. I wouldn't walk across the street to drink a beer with him, BUT the presidential election is a popularity contest, and my political ideology lines up with him fairly well. The guy's done a helluva job for the last 3 years, even with the torches and pitchforks out the entire time, and the thought of Bernie or Joe being President makes me nauseous.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:15 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:15 am to coachcrisp
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That's total CNN bullshite!
What he was publicly saying to begin with was meant to calm the public anxiety.
Using your logic here, This is Fox News BS?
Wow, what a productive Point you made. Crying about fake news again.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:17 am to djsdawg
quote:No. It's my logic. It's what I'd probably say to calm the masses while we gathered more info so we could make some decisions....it's called common sense.
Using your logic here, This is Fox News BS?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:20 am to coachcrisp
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read all the fake news links you posted
What is one source that you would find credible?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:23 am to coachcrisp
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throughout their "higher" education.
Yea, science is stupid fake news now? You really have gone off the deep end
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:39 am to djsdawg
quote:Well those 3 links came from 1) The Washington Post, 2) Politico, and 3) The Atlantic. Why couldn't we get a New York Times link?
What is one source that you would find credible?
Looking at the ownership of the printed news and tv networks, I wouldn't go there.
Off the top of my head, I'd say The Wall Street Journal, the Chicago Tribune, the New York Post and The Washington Times. Magazines would include the National Review, The Weekly Standard and the American Spectator.
Go look there, and compare what you use now. Maybe somewhere in between you'll find the truth.
Also, I watch CNN and MSNBC along with FOX and the networks.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:43 am to Tigerman97
quote:Can you bring some to the thread for us?..Tia.
Simply look at Trump's tweets and you can see where he, in the early days of this, worked actively against the recommendations of his own medical professionals.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:46 am to djsdawg
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Yea, science is stupid fake news now? You really have gone off the deep end
I was referring to political ideology, not science...keep up.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:45 am to coachcrisp
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was referring to political ideology, not science...keep up.
Higher learning involves science and the same exact political ideology?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:46 am to coachcrisp
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Off the top of my head, I'd say The Wall Street Journal, the Chicago Tribune, the New York Post and The Washington Times. Magazines would include the National Review, The Weekly Standard and the American Spectator.
You would trash these same things if they criticized trump, or the feds response, in any way
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:48 am to coachcrisp
And here are the 4 points again:
A) Scaling up diagnostic testing, which means start the mass-manufacture of the testing kits
B) Preparing hospitals, medical staff, etc. for the oncoming pandemic
C) crafting informative, ACCURATE public health messages
D) working with state-level authorities to make sure everyone was on the same page
None of this happened
A) Scaling up diagnostic testing, which means start the mass-manufacture of the testing kits
B) Preparing hospitals, medical staff, etc. for the oncoming pandemic
C) crafting informative, ACCURATE public health messages
D) working with state-level authorities to make sure everyone was on the same page
None of this happened
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:51 am to coachcrisp
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Off the top of my head, I'd say The Wall Street Journal, the Chicago Tribune, the New York Post and The Washington Times
All of these are right wing outlets just as much as my links were left wing. It's not like I linked Huffington Post or Vox. Politico is more centric than some of the ones that you listed.
For the record, there was also a WSJ article written by trump's ex-FDA commissioner, but that was behind a paywall so I didn't link it. If you actually read the Atlantic article, that's where a lot of their information leading to Trump's blame came from.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:52 am to djsdawg
Political board.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:58 am to MrMojoRisin
So move it to OT. Crisp wants to make this political.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:58 am to djsdawg
I'd like to get off this political angle myself. It doesn't do any good at this point as the outbreak is already here.
Just wish people would stop burying their heads in the sand as they are the ones that are gonna spread it.
And yea, this didn't start out political. Some people are just take this whole outbreak as an indictment of his orangeness.
Just wish people would stop burying their heads in the sand as they are the ones that are gonna spread it.
And yea, this didn't start out political. Some people are just take this whole outbreak as an indictment of his orangeness.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:02 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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All of these are right wing outlets just as much as my links were left wing. It's not like I linked Huffington Post or Vox. Politico is more centric than some of the ones that you listed.
"Looking at the ownership of the printed news and tv networks, I wouldn't go there.
Off the top of my head, I'd say The Wall Street Journal, the Chicago Tribune, the New York Post and The Washington Times. Magazines would include the National Review, The Weekly Standard and the American Spectator.
Go look there, and compare what you use now. Maybe somewhere in between you'll find the truth."
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:16 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:For the record, I take this pandemic very seriously! I'm 72 years old, living with level 3 emphysema and chronic bronchitis. This stuff would probably take me out.
'd like to get off this political angle myself. It doesn't do any good at this point as the outbreak is already here.
Just wish people would stop burying their heads in the sand as they are the ones that are gonna spread it.
And yea, this didn't start out political. Some people are just take this whole outbreak as an indictment of his orangeness.
My problem with this thread is the fact that, as with everything, the left continues to make everything political and degrading to Trump. Most folks have just zoned out all the rhetoric and propaganda by now, but it's still ugly and negative, and that goes for BOTH sides.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:19 pm to MrMojoRisin
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Political board.
I left this topic a few days ago because it's pretty obvious some people are politically motivated about the topic more so than it being about the actual virus.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 12:20 pm
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