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Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:42 am to nhbboy
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:45 am to JDM1992
Maybe because you only want to think about the possible negatives?
Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:47 am to nhbboy
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:49 am to JDM1992
He needed long visits with offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Doug Nussmeier to learn the system. They would write down each set of plays in different colors to make it easier. Price kept studying, kept smiling. After a while, the offense became manageable.
"He's grown up in this system, and it's a real good credit to Doug Nussmeier in training this guy," Sarkisian said. "From where he was the first day of training camp his freshman year to where he is now, he's been fantastic."
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Sounds like Sark gave him a lot of the credit for quarterback development.
"He's grown up in this system, and it's a real good credit to Doug Nussmeier in training this guy," Sarkisian said. "From where he was the first day of training camp his freshman year to where he is now, he's been fantastic."
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Sounds like Sark gave him a lot of the credit for quarterback development.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:54 am to nhbboy
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:55 am to wm72
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I think the offense will be very similar in style as well. However, I Bama's offense under McElwain was a lot more deceptive than most people seemed to acknowledge with all the shifting TEs etc. McElwain successfully created a lot of matchup problems
You mean pick plays that the officials just gave up on calling on everyone now. McElwain was a great play caller and overall a very solid OC, Saban gave him a lot more room to play with than OCs in the past. Look at Applewhite, same rules but much better offense from McElwain.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:56 am to JDM1992
Look at what he did outside of the Washington job (since you don't want to give him any credit there). I would say he brings some new qualities that McElwain didn't. Instead of assuming nothing but negative take a look at the many positives. Why is it so hard for you to believe that a guy who was very good quarterback himself could develop someone else to have ths same success? Nussmeier was a damn good quarterback in college.
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He joined the Fresno State staff after having spent two seasons as the quarterbacks coach for the St. Louis Rams on the staff of head coach Scott Linehan, a former UW offensive coordinator.
While with the Rams, he coached Marc Bulger, who was named to his second Pro Bowl in 2006, finishing with 4,301 passing yards, 24 touchdowns and only eight interceptions.
Before his time with the Rams, Nussmeier was the QB coach at Michigan State for three seasons. In 2005, Spartans quarterback Drew Stanton passed for a school-record 3,415 yards, breaking a record set by another Nussmeier pupil, Jeff Smoker, who threw for 3,395 yards in 2003. Smoker also set MSU records for completions (302), attempts (488) and passing touchdowns (21).
Nussmeier, who played in both the NFL and the Canadian Football League, began his coaching career in the CFL. In 2001, he was the quarterbacks coach for the British Columbia Lions and then, in 2002, served as the offensive coordinator and QBs coach for the Ottawa Renegades.
During his outstanding collegiate career at Idaho, Nussmeier passed for 10,824 yards and averaged 309.1 yards per game in total offense for his career. Along with Steve McNair and Daunte Culpepper, he is one of only three QBs in NCAA history to total 10,000 yards passing and 1,000 yards rushing during his career.
He also set Idaho school records for TD passes (91), passing efficiency (154.4), completion percentage (.609) and total offense (12,054 yards). In 1993, he won the Walter Payton Award, Division I-AA's version of the Heisman Trophy. That year, he led Idaho to an 11-3 record and set a school record with 33 TD passes. He was also the Big Sky Offensive Player of the Year in 1992, when the Vandals went 9-3 and won the conference crown
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He joined the Fresno State staff after having spent two seasons as the quarterbacks coach for the St. Louis Rams on the staff of head coach Scott Linehan, a former UW offensive coordinator.
While with the Rams, he coached Marc Bulger, who was named to his second Pro Bowl in 2006, finishing with 4,301 passing yards, 24 touchdowns and only eight interceptions.
Before his time with the Rams, Nussmeier was the QB coach at Michigan State for three seasons. In 2005, Spartans quarterback Drew Stanton passed for a school-record 3,415 yards, breaking a record set by another Nussmeier pupil, Jeff Smoker, who threw for 3,395 yards in 2003. Smoker also set MSU records for completions (302), attempts (488) and passing touchdowns (21).
Nussmeier, who played in both the NFL and the Canadian Football League, began his coaching career in the CFL. In 2001, he was the quarterbacks coach for the British Columbia Lions and then, in 2002, served as the offensive coordinator and QBs coach for the Ottawa Renegades.
During his outstanding collegiate career at Idaho, Nussmeier passed for 10,824 yards and averaged 309.1 yards per game in total offense for his career. Along with Steve McNair and Daunte Culpepper, he is one of only three QBs in NCAA history to total 10,000 yards passing and 1,000 yards rushing during his career.
He also set Idaho school records for TD passes (91), passing efficiency (154.4), completion percentage (.609) and total offense (12,054 yards). In 1993, he won the Walter Payton Award, Division I-AA's version of the Heisman Trophy. That year, he led Idaho to an 11-3 record and set a school record with 33 TD passes. He was also the Big Sky Offensive Player of the Year in 1992, when the Vandals went 9-3 and won the conference crown
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:59 am to nhbboy
The result of playing with a lead and have a great D, will prohibit any OC working for a head coach with a ball control mentality to "show-out" early in the season. Once Bama got a lead they went into the shell so they would not let any one the 'wrinkle plays' out of the bag, saving them for late in the season (Iron Bowl, SEC title game etc.)
A case of becareful what you pray for, if Nuss is opening the playbook in early Oct it would most likely indicate that the transition of the transition D was not as succesful as anticapated
A case of becareful what you pray for, if Nuss is opening the playbook in early Oct it would most likely indicate that the transition of the transition D was not as succesful as anticapated
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:10 pm to KillianRussell
McElwain has always been a guy who ran it up your arse for 4 quarters. He did at Fresno and did it some more at Alabama. Nussmeier is known for airing it out everywhere he has been. Most practice observes feel that Alabama has more talent at WR now than at any point in the Saban era. I would not be surprised to see McCarron passing the ball more aggressively this year.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:15 pm to KillianRussell
Please, Nussie was hired to
run Sabans O
recruit
coach the Qb.
He will do just fine,unfortunately.
run Sabans O
recruit
coach the Qb.
He will do just fine,unfortunately.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:16 pm to nhbboy
Don't get your hopes up,Nuss was not the playcaller @ Washington, the HC a former BYU QB did!
Being the QB coach of Jeff Smoker and Drew Stanton is prolly a bigger accomplishment than the raw talent of a Jake Locker, those two MSU quaterbacks played very VERY smart
Again be careful what you pray for games are won on the scoreboard not the fantasy football stat sheet
Being the QB coach of Jeff Smoker and Drew Stanton is prolly a bigger accomplishment than the raw talent of a Jake Locker, those two MSU quaterbacks played very VERY smart
Again be careful what you pray for games are won on the scoreboard not the fantasy football stat sheet
Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:17 pm to KillianRussell
"Nuss was not the playcaller @ Washington."
Even if you don't want to give him ANY credit at Washington it doesn't take away from the fact that the QB's have played outstanding everywhere he has been and he was an outstanding QB himself. Why is it so hard to believe that he could help develop a QB?
Even if you don't want to give him ANY credit at Washington it doesn't take away from the fact that the QB's have played outstanding everywhere he has been and he was an outstanding QB himself. Why is it so hard to believe that he could help develop a QB?
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:18 pm to KillianRussell
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:19 pm to JDM1992
You are trying to convince me by ignorning a track record of repeated success that Nussmeier has had developing QB's, and ignoring his outstanding success as a player. I am giving you facts and you're choosing to ignore them because you only want to be negative about the hire. Show me some reasons that would support why he can't do the job? Your only reason was that Sarkisian called the plays at Washington and I have shown you that he had plenty of success before he got there. Go ahead and explain all of that away too. The QB's have played outstanding everywhere this guy has been and he was a great QB himself, much better than McElwain was.
Show me why he can't do the job.
Show me why he can't do the job.
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:19 pm to nhbboy
Dude I am a Penn Stater I have no Bama hate, I am not knocking the guy behind some petty Iron Bowl flame
Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:30 pm to nhbboy
One other small thing you might not want to overlook. The best coach in college football felt he was qualified for the job. Heaven forbid I trust his intuition over yours.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 2:09 pm to Tammany Tom
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I know full well about Nick's micro managing tendencies , but I will tell you this. Miles messes around with our offense 10 times more than Saban did while he was here. Jimbo had pretty much full reign of the offense while Nick was here. During practice, it was rare when Nick was seen on the offensive field. He was all over the defense. Mud champ was DC in name only at LSU. Nick ran everything, and I mean, everything about our defense from teaching technique to defensive game plans.
Saban's running it ALL at Bama now, offense and defense. That's why he's had twice the success at Bama (2 NC's)that he had a LSU (1 NC)....
Posted on 4/5/12 at 2:16 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I just think that much of this has to do with the offensive talent that we accrued during his time here. A chimp could have coached JJ, MI, and TR, and they still would have produced like they did.
I am not even saying that he was not good. He was really good, and I am really appreciative. BUT, I do not think he will be missed as much as some of you want to think.
I'm eager to see what he can do with his offense now that he will have less talent on his roster. Snagging the talent of JJ, MI, TR and even guys like Collin Peek & Brad Smelley don't just jump into your lap every year.
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