re: Weak non-conference scheduling in baseball and basketball?

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You intended to schedule better based on previous year data.

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Which is all you can base a SCHEDULE on.

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Reality is a different story

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I didn't know that our coaches had time machines when we set schedules?

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and so is using a thing called logic.

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Which your initial argument is completely devoid of, hence why you have now changed it.

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When you get done with that we are also playing MTSU twice that has a current RPI of 41.

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Really, you are using current RPI? Hilarious.

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Show me 6 non-conference games MSU is playing that are better than ASU (3), ND (1), VT (2).

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So we are only looking at the top end of NON CONFERENCE SOS now, in games that you will almost assuredly lose all of? Got it. Keep breaking it down into smaller and smaller pieces -- or what is also known as cherrypicking your statistics...

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He was the first coach to take Irvine to the CWS

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Gary Adams took them to two at previous levels.

Your argument really isn't valid, since they've only had a program for 3 years at the D1 level when Serrano took over. Only a total of 11 seasons now at D1. Not like he pulled some random long-term program out of the dumpster and built a powerhouse. Gillespie may not have gotten them over the postseason hump into Omaha again, but he's been more successful overall than Serrano was, including winning their only Big West title, getting them their only national seed, and leading them to two Super Regionals. Yes, Serrano's tenure at UC Irvine under the current "state" of the program is very average. As is his time at CSF.

But hey, Rod Delmonico led Tennessee to 3 CWS appearances, so obviously he's > Serrano by this CWS logic.

Gillespie may not have gotten them over the postseason hump into Omaha again, but he's been more successful overall than Serrano was, including winning their only Big West title, getting them their only national seed, and leading them to two Super Regionals. Yes, Serrano's tenure at UC Irvine under the current "state" of the program is very average. As is his time at CSF.

Moron, Gillespie has been there 5 year and Serrano was there 3. That team that got the national seed were by and large recruited by Serrano.

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Gary Adams took them to two at previous levels.

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Really he took them to a CWS in Omaha? Link?

He fricking built Irvine into a baseball power and is responsible for that program being as successful as it is. Yea my argument is invalid.

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Yes, Serrano's tenure at UC Irvine under the current "state" of the program is very average. As is his time at CSF.

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I want you to explain how his tenure at Fullerton was average, when he had the 2nd best winning pct in the history of the program. Damn dude are you that fricking stupid?

Why the frick do you think he got the job at Fullerton in the first place??? It certainly wasn't because he was average.

I guess Tennessee thought he was average when they hired him too. SMH

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Really he took them to a CWS in Omaha? Link?

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You don't understand quotes do you.

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Gary Adams took them to two at previous levels.

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He fricking built Irvine into a baseball power and is responsible for that program being as successful as it is.

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So, he "built" a baseball powerhouse in 3 years on the job. That what your telling me? Hilarious. Tennessee should be on the fricking brink then....

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I want you to explain how his tenure at Fullerton was average, when he had the 2nd best winning pct in the history of the program.

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His winning percentage is .003 above their alltime average. That's the DEFINITION of average. So, he's 2nd out of 4 total coaches all-time? That supposed to be impressive?

Let's look closer, since Omaha is so important in your argument.
Garrido - 7 CWS in 19 years with 3 titles
Cochell - 2 CWS in 3 years
Horton - 6 CWS in 11 years with 1 title
Serrano - 1 CWS in 4 years

Obviously, by quantifying postseason success, he's the worst coach in Cal State Fullerton history.

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I guess Tennessee thought he was average when they hired him too. SMH

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Of course. Known destination job for powerhouse coaches...

I said in my OP that he was good, but that he hasn't proven anything in the SEC yet and was average at his last two stops(albeit at great locations). That's still a fact, whether you want to admit it or not. Sure, he may be a great coach -- he's certainly an improvement at Tennessee -- but to name him "top 5 in conference" when he hasn't done shite yet is pretty ridiculous.

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Your best post of the day -- by far.

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I love comparing 4 years of Serrano at CSF vs. other coaches who were there longer and didn't have to compete with another CWS team that he helped create.

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Typical apologist response. When did UC Irvine knock Serrano's CSF teams out of CWS contention or otherwise play them in the tournament? That's right - never.

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Yet, you play one road game in the entire pre-conference schedule @ Clemson and one neutral site game against them. We play neutral site games against Southern Miss and Ole Miss, who are at least Clemson's equal this season.

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the neutral site game is in Greenville which, sad to say, is dominated by Clemson fans and only 45 mins from Clemson. The crowd will be even, though.

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Yet you've already managed to lose at home to Liberty

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Liberty is 10 times better than any team yall have played so far. all yall did was schedule a bunch of cupcakes at home for 20 straight games.

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Liberty is 10 times better than any team yall have played so far. all yall did was schedule a bunch of cupcakes at home for 20 straight games.

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Really? So they made a regional final last year(round of 32)? Did they host a regional? Yeah, I didn't think so -- yet 2 of our opponents have and did. Sorry for kicking the shite out of them though...