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re: Vol assaults AR fans post-game

Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:32 pm to
Seeing a few posts on social media about this being a male cheerleader with the girl cheerleader.

Not sure if it matters or not.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20041 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:33 pm to
If you are correct, then why does nothing ever happen to the player? This isn’t some isolated incident, it happens a few times a year. Yet nothing ever happens. How do you explain that?

Do ALL the victims and ALL law enforcement and ALL DAs drop the ball every single time?

Or maybe you are wrong.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6763 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:34 pm to
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There are multiple avenues by which the UT player could defend his actions, and many reasons any sane DA would never pursue charges here

No because there is a video of him pushing him in the back. The only reason he won’t be convicted of assault is that charges won’t be pressed.

This has nothing to do with field storming and everything to do with politics, the potential plaintiff being a fan, the fact that litigation costs money, and the fact that UT may retaliate by filing a separate petty civil charge against the fan.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61443 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:34 pm to
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I have no idea. But all the player has to say is he perceived the guy as a threat. How are you going to disprove it?


He would be laughed at. In your world anybody can attack anybody else and just say they perceived them as a threat and no one could disprove it. Pretty sure that is not how it works.

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History is littered with examples of David slaying Goliath.

On a battlefield?

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Did you not see the Vandy-Bama game or Arky-Tenn game yesterday? If the little guy never won, we wouldn’t be discussing this.


So you are ok with players attacking fans when the fans back is turned on them? Ok. You be you.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6763 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:37 pm to
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How do you explain that?

Are you asking why fans don’t press criminal charges against a player on their team?

Let’s see…
1. Peer pressure
2. They just don’t want to
3. Litigation costs money
4. School might separately file petty civil charges just to make your life harder
5. You don’t get anything out of it except revenge

It’s obvious why fans don’t file charges against players of the team they support — it doesn’t mean it’s fricking legal to assault someone simply because they are **on a football field** after a game.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61443 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:38 pm to
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Seeing a few posts on social media about this being a male cheerleader with the girl cheerleader.

Not sure if it matters or not.


not to me. I guess it could be argued that they have a right to be on the field. But, it didn't look like they were wearing cheerleader uniforms to me.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6763 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:38 pm to
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Seeing a few posts on social media about this being a male cheerleader with the girl cheerleader. Not sure if it matters or not.

It doesn’t really matter, but it would shut up all the UT stans claiming “they weren’t supposed to be there”.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61443 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:39 pm to
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The only relevant piece of information you need is that he pushed him in the back.



Hard to feel threatened or argue self defense when the person is moving away from you and you push them from behind.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Member since Aug 2018
3749 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:41 pm to
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This has nothing to do with field storming and everything to do with politics, the potential plaintiff being a fan, the fact that litigation costs money, and the fact that UT may retaliate by filing a separate petty civil charge against the fan.


Ugh, yea if someone comes running at me, gets in my face, I push him, and he sues me or presses charges, you are damn right I would counter sue and press charges. Bare minimum, the fan is just as at fault/liable/guilty here so, yea, nothing will happen.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61443 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:41 pm to
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but it would shut up all the UT stans claiming “they weren’t supposed to be there”.


Funny thing is...it isn't Tennessee fans arguing. It is Alabama fans. And the reason they are arguing is because of the Jermaine Burton incident.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61443 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:43 pm to
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Ugh, yea if someone comes running at me, gets in my face, I push him, and he sues me or presses charges, you are damn right I would counter sue and press charges.


And if I am walking away from you and never said a word to you..and then you turned and pushed me in the back knocking me into a woman and knocking us both to the ground and I sued you...you going to try to sue me back? because that is what happened. You seem to want to just forget what actually happened.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6763 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:44 pm to
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yea if someone comes running at me, gets in my face, I push him

Imaginary situation, how about we talk about the video in OP where a UT player pushes a random person running away from them in the back?

There is no charge the player can file against the other party. The only charge that could be filed would be by the school for trespassing, and very unlikely the school does that to an enrolled student.

Regardless, that would have zero bearing on any assault charge against the player. Why can’t you Bammers get this through your thick skulls?
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20041 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:46 pm to
I am sorry I am not expressing enough outrage that somebody got pushed on a football field.

Some of you may want to rub your hands, you have been clutching awfully tight for awhile now. I can already see you are softer than Charmin.

But you are right, I don’t really care some dumbass got pushed down.

If you play stupid games you often win stupid prizes. This is simply a case of FAFO.

frick you all in the butthole for making me defend a Tennessee player.
Posted by Blackmagic84
Member since Sep 2024
285 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:47 pm to
Should be charged for assault. Also kicked off the team.
Posted by Beau Fontenot
Member since Oct 2018
459 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:48 pm to
Shameful, embarrassing behavior. The steps at Neyland are pretty high. Hopefully, he'll be well acquainted with them soon.
Posted by Blackmagic84
Member since Sep 2024
285 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:49 pm to
Still melting I see. Time heals. But in the rant, it will be a long long long time.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6763 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:49 pm to
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I am sorry I am not expressing enough outrage that somebody got pushed on a football field.

No one cares that you’re not outraged. People care that you’re defending the UT player.

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frick you all in the butthole for making me defend a Tennessee player.

Make you? This is the entire reason people are arguing with you.

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FAFO

Nope. The FA part is completely missing. 99.9% of people storming the field don’t get pushed from behind by pissy players.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
12064 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:53 pm to
Why aren’t we surprised? We all saw the Bama faithful and Saban make excuses for Burton bitch punching that 90 lb sorority girl. He was
“skeered ” yeah, right.
A top conditioned, fully padded and helmeted football player surrounded by his teammates - many topping 300 lbs. was scared to death of a little sorority girl. Get real
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61443 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:56 pm to
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I am sorry I am not expressing enough outrage that somebody got pushed on a football field.



I don't care if anybody shows any outrage at all. It doesn't make my life harder or better, either way. I am a little surprised that people actually thinks it is ok for a football player to push any random fan to the ground. Not just that, but push them into another unsuspecting fan knocking them both to the ground. Neither were even facing the guy.

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Some of you may want to rub your hands, you have been clutching awfully tight for awhile now. I can already see you are softer than Charmin.

I've never been called that before.

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But you are right, I don’t really care some dumbass got pushed down.

Why would you? Just surprised you are defending someone that did the pushing. It's like seeing a bully picking on a smaller, weaker person on the schoolyard playground and defending the bully.

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frick you all in the butthole for making me defend a Tennessee player.


Nobody made you. You did that by choice. Because, I am guessing you thought it was the right thing to do.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20041 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 3:01 pm to
Do you want to know how to not get pushed by a player? It is a simple little secret.

Stay out of arm’s length of them.

Why anyone thinks it is normal or acceptable to get up in anyone’s personal space, right up in his face like this guy, especially right after a football game, is nuts.

Let us know what happens in this case. I am pretty sure I already know.
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