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re: Unpopular Opinion: Oklahoma has the best chance to win playoffs

Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:41 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:41 am to
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Last year, did anyone think Washington had a shot? I can honestly say this year every team looks to have a shot.

Hoping for a great series of games.


Absolutely. Two excellent games would be great....as long as we finish on the right side of the score!
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:50 am to
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He was a pivotal part of their offense and the best player in the SEC when healthy, and to watch you guys stupidly thump your chests like you made some incredible changes in scheme that helped you win is laughable.


Absolutely right about Kerryon Johnson. But for you to stupidly thump your chest and act like we did not make any adjustments to scheme is to help us win is just as laughable. Either you did not watch either game, or simply did not understand what you were watching.

I don't recall us running nay toss sweeps in the first game. We did in the second game. We did not throw the ball as much in the first game as we did in the first.

We came out more physical in the second game.

Don't get me wrong. Losing Kerryon Johnson most definitiely had an impact on the game. But if you think we did not make adjustments....man....you are completely out of your mind.

Dude. Try to get past your hate for Georgia to make an intelligent post. Give Auburn credit where Auburn deserves credit, by all means. But Losing Kerryon Johnson is not the only reason Georgia beat Auburn. There were a multitude of reasons.

To say Georgia id not make any adjustments from the first game to the second...or ever during the second game just shows ignorance.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:56 am to
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Dude, why don’t you just blow Baker, or have you already? He could have fire balls raining down from the sky on him & you’d say “Oh, Baker thrives in a fireball storm. He’ll evade the fireballs. Fire can’t beat Baker, he beats fire.”

I agree with what you are saying, but in fairness...nobody has stopped Mayfield yet. Until somebody does, maybe he does thrive in a firestorm?

That said, He has been held to 3 TD passes a couple of times. If we hold him to that, I think we win. 21 Points will not win the game for Oklahoma. Nor will 28, in case the run one in. I am looking for a lot of scoring.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:01 pm to
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Because you haven't played anybody that can throw the ball, moron. You played Missouri. That's it. That's the only team you've played all season long.


He's actually correct about this. Georgia has only played one team with a Top 50 passing offense, and that was Missouri (#14). Georgia gave up 253 yards and 4 TDs in that game.

Here are the passing offense rankings for Georgia's other major opponents. None of them are very good. Meanwhile, Oklahoma is the #3 passing offense. Georgia has not faced a passing attack like OU's.

Notre Dame - 104
Miss. State - 109
Tennessee - 107
Vanderbilt - 53
Florida - 101
South Carolina - 79
Auburn - 68
Kentucky - 100
Georgia Tech - 128
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:07 pm to
I think that may be reasonable - they certainly have the best QB with a ton of experience. I'd rather see Clemson than them and I'd rather see UGA in the championship game.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:14 pm to
No doubt there. We struggle against the pass. I don't have time now, but I wonder what rankings OKlahoma's opponents had in rushing the ball? It's a two edged sword. My guess is they have not faced many, if any strong rushing teams. Everybody knows Oklahoma can score quickly. Anybody that wants to argue that point should just watch any of their games.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:20 pm to
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That said, He has been held to 3 TD passes a couple of times. If we hold him to that, I think we win. 21 Points will not win the game for Oklahoma. Nor will 28, in case the run one in. I am looking for a lot of scoring.


I'd agree with this, but I also think that OU has the advantage of extra prep in which the offense with a superstar really has the advantage of the first couple scripted drives. Manziel almost always scored a TD on the first drive. Georgia is going to need to score 40 to win, IMO, which they can do against OU's shitty defense.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43509 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:23 pm to
My question for Sooner fans is how do you plan on stopping UGA's offense?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:25 pm to
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My question for Sooner fans is how do you plan on stopping UGA's offense?


Bend don't break. Take gambles and force a few turnovers. They don't have to "stop" Georgia's offense. They just have to limit it and get a little lucky.
Posted by Snaxnstuff
Zachary
Member since Mar 2014
207 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:25 pm to
Seeing a lot of team SEC coat tail riders angry at an LSU fan for picking against the conference.

1. I didn’t pick against anybody

2. This unbiased observation was made based mostly of stats
Posted by Snaxnstuff
Zachary
Member since Mar 2014
207 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:27 pm to
See 2016 Sugar Bowl. Their defense is better than people think, you have to account for the passing attacks they face and their offense basically keeps their defense out on the field
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21874 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:28 pm to
I don't necessarily think you are wrong, but I see it from a different angle.

First, Round 3 of UA vs Clemson is going to be as physical or more so than the first two. If the game plays out emotionally like the first two, I can't imagine either team having much left in the tank. It will be extremely difficult to reenergize and refocus on a team TBD.

If that team TBD is OU, yes, that offense becomes a significant issue. No doubt analysts from Clemson and UA are dissecting both UGA and OU film and developing a shell for a game plan with either. However, the OU attack has a lot of weapons and different wrinkles. It will an extraordinary challenge for Clemson or UA to prep inside a week to instill whatever packages they'll use for certain situations and learn all key reads and cues.

Saban's successes have been built on talent, discipline and over preparation. The playoff scenario against an OU type offense in a short window creates significant challenges with short prep time.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43509 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:32 pm to
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See 2016 Sugar Bowl.


Interesting. I didn't know UGA was down to only 1 rb who is not healthy. UGA is infinitely better than AU's was at this time last year.

Again, how are they going to stop our offense?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43509 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Bend don't break. Take gambles and force a few turnovers. They don't have to "stop" Georgia's offense. They just have to limit it and get a little lucky.



I agree with the philosophy but do they have the defense to do it?
Posted by Snaxnstuff
Zachary
Member since Mar 2014
207 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:40 pm to
They are going to sell out to stop the run the same as they did vs Auburn in the Sugar Bowl and Ohio State at the shoe (worked both times)
Posted by ClemsonRules
Virginia
Member since Jan 2017
2608 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:43 pm to
Clemson punked Mayfield and company in the playoffs two years ago with arguably a better cast. Not worried since they won’t make it past UGa anyway. Nice Big12 band wagon post. OU barely beat Baylor. Any O that can pass and run will dominate that soft Defence.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Bend don't break. Take gambles and force a few turnovers. They don't have to "stop" Georgia's offense. They just have to limit it and get a little lucky.


Actually? I was thinking that would be our formula.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
14257 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Except for the fact that the more pressure you put on him, the more improvisational skills he has, and his maneuverability outside of the pocket makes him even more dangerous. At least that’s what the experts say.


They have no idea how fast and strong he really is. No clue.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:49 pm to
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I agree with the philosophy but do they have the defense to do it?


To hold Georgia to 21? No.

To hold Georgia to 24? Maybe a 20% chance.

To hold Georgia to 28? Maybe a 40% chance.

The line is OU + 1.5 and the Over/Under is 60.

A 31-28 game is likely either way.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30986 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Except for the fact that the more pressure you put on him, the more improvisational skills he has, and his maneuverability outside of the pocket makes him even more dangerous. At least that’s what the experts say.


There's no doubt that Mayfield presents a helluva challenge to any defense, but if you can get enough pressure to collapse the pocket then somebody's gonna lay hands on him. Whether they take him down or not would be the key.
That stupid-arse Okie poster would like us to believe that he's impervious to pressure, but that's bullshite. Take away a QBs time to make good choices and he'll make bad choices. it's a fact.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 12:51 pm
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