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re: UGA or Ole Miss

Posted on 4/8/10 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
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Posted on 4/8/10 at 7:48 pm to
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four very talented running backs,

rb's that didn't break the 2 deep and none got over 50 carries.
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our whole offensive line returning

minus 1

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a nice rushing QB in Relf in store for 2010.

won't help if he can't throw.


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Our only other major hit is the loss of LB Jamar Chaney and we return 2/3 there.

half the d.line isn't a big loss? a startin cb?
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
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21519 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 7:49 pm to
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adamwilson is 15,


try 17 prick
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/8/10 at 7:52 pm to
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half the d.line isn't a big loss? a startin cb?


Pretty sure UGA lost a lot of starters on defense as well. You are likely gonna be starting a freshman QB in the SEC and breaking in a new defensive scheme that you haven't been recruiting players for. No idea why you are so confident that you will lose 3 games at worst.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/8/10 at 7:52 pm to
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rb's that didn't break the 2 deep and none got over 50 carries


only one of those RBs was on the active roster last year and that was Robert Elliot who had 44 rushes for 221 yards and a TD. i'm including JUCO RB in Vick Ballard, and two redshirt freshmen in LaDarius Perkins and Montrell Connor.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/8/10 at 7:53 pm to
I hate to disagree with you Adam, but Saturday doesn't mean shite. Richt has already said we're not going to see a whole lot out of the defense, and also keep in mind it's only been 2 months of installing a brand new system with completely new positions/terminology. How we look Saturday will in no way determine how we'll look 6 months from now against Arkansas. Whether we look like the steel curtain or we look like swiss cheese, it doesn't matter one iota.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/8/10 at 7:56 pm to
I don't know how many times this has to be addressed, but why must a team "recruit" to fill out our defense because it's a new scheme? Does it not occur to you that we have people who were playing DE who are perfectly suited to be absolute monsters at OLB in this scheme? We have plenty of talent to make this D work I promise you. The only thing we need to work on is the execution. The talent is there.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:04 pm to
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Pretty sure UGA lost a lot of starters on defense as well.


as we are running a new defense It isn't nearly as big a deal.

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breaking in a new defensive scheme that you haven't been recruiting players for.

most are scheme diverse.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26155 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:05 pm to
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We have four very talented running backs, our whole offensive line returning, and a nice rushing QB in Relf in store for 2010. Our running game will be excellent again next year.


I'm thinking state should be able to power over teams with weak defensive fronts. That O-line is nasty and so is Relf. Arkansas, Georgia, LSU, and Auburn are all teams that could have some major problems containing Relf and Co.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:05 pm to
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only one of those RBs was on the active roster last year


case in point
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:05 pm to
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I hate to disagree with you Adam, but Saturday doesn't mean shite. Richt has already said we're not going to see a whole lot out of the defense, and also keep in mind it's only been 2 months of installing a brand new system with completely new positions/terminology. How we look Saturday will in no way determine how we'll look 6 months from now against Arkansas. Whether we look like the steel curtain or we look like swiss cheese, it doesn't matter one iota.


well that's true. However, i think it will give us a small impression. As of now we have no clue so any little bit is good.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45984 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:08 pm to
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I don't know how many times this has to be addressed, but why must a team "recruit" to fill out our defense because it's a new scheme? Does it not occur to you that we have people who were playing DE who are perfectly suited to be absolute monsters at OLB in this scheme?


We didn't have your kind of talent in 2007, but we had a lot of guys playing out of position. A 4-3 DT isn't always going to be able to play DE in a 3-4. A 4-3 DE certainly might not be able to play Jack in a 3-4. You need a big 320-330lb NT who can anchor the middle. Does UGA have that? Do you have a couple of 240-250lb guys to plug in at Mike and Will LB? You need big linebackers and D-linemen to make a 3-4 really work. From what I have seen UGA has favored smaller/faster defensive players under Richt. You absolutely have to recruit players to fit your scheme on both offense and defense. Just because a guy is a talented athlete doesn't mean he can go to a new position and be as effective as he was at the old one.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119583 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:14 pm to
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case in point


RB is the easiest position in football to transition to, especially considering we're not playing any true freshmen.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:15 pm to
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A 4-3 DT isn't always going to be able to play DE in a 3-4.


luckily for us we have a few

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you need a big 320-330lb NT who can anchor the middle. Does UGA have that?w that can.

our starting dt weighs 295.

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Do you have a couple of 240-250lb guys to plug in at Mike and Will LB?


sure do.

Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:15 pm to
UGA is likely a 7-8 win team this year IMO.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:15 pm to
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RB is the easiest position in football to transition to


true. I just think it will be hard to replace Dixon's production.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:16 pm to
dont they still have Ducre?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119583 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:17 pm to
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true. I just think it will be hard to replace Dixon's production


with one single back? sure it will be hard. but that's not the situation. Like UF, Mullen will be employing a back by committee approach(+Relf) and along with improved passing there should be no drop off in the offense's production. if anything there will only be improvement.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119583 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:18 pm to
ducre was a senior.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89443 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:18 pm to
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You need a big 320-330lb NT who can anchor the middle


The biggest misconception on the planet about the 3-4. To answer your question, yes we do have a behemoth in Kwame Geathers who is 6'5", 330 that we can plug in at nose. However, when Grantham was running the Cowboys' D-line he turned 290 pound Jay Ratliff into a Pro Bowler. Our current starter is 290 pound Deangelo Tyson, who played DT in the 4-3 and was a top 2 DT in the nation in high school a few years ago.

I also feel like we have some prototypical, textbook OLBs that are converted DEs from last year in Justin Houston and Cornelius Washington. They were fine 4-3 DEs, but these guys are tailor-made 3-4 OLBs. Sure we may have some guys uncomfortable in the new positions and a little out of sorts. But we've got the guys, I'm confident of that.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 4/8/10 at 8:18 pm to
gotcha. I was a fan of his. only player from my HS to ever go to big college football.
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