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re: Treon Harris' Statement
Posted on 10/9/14 at 1:09 pm to tylerdurden24
Posted on 10/9/14 at 1:09 pm to tylerdurden24
If she's a scholarship athlete and she lied about this, she gone.
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 1:10 pm to willthethrill
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In fact, testimony indicates that the young lady in question was the sexual aggressor in that interaction.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 1:15 pm to tylerdurden24
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So, in other words: Whatever happened, the victim is to blame.
Don't know if she is a victim or not. She is only an accuser at this point
Posted on 10/9/14 at 1:18 pm to gatorsimz
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-The girl was the sexual aggressor with both Treon and the other dude
Read more carefully. The statement doesn't say that. (although they try pretty hard to imply it).
Does it matter how many other guys she wanted to bang if she didn't want to bang this one?
Posted on 10/9/14 at 1:20 pm to tokenBoiler
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Does it matter how many other guys she wanted to bang if she didn't want to bang this one?
Nope, IF she didn't want to that is. If she did, it matters somewhat.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 1:31 pm to lowspark12
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Lawyers do dumb shite all the time... the idea that Harris's lawyer is smart for releasing this statement could be misguided.
If the accused is my client and I'm able to cast doubt on the credibility of the accuser/sole witness of the alleged act, am I not obligated to do so?
Why are the "rules" and expectations so dramatically different for alleged sexual assaults than for any other type of crime. Female rape victims are afforded a greater degree of deference and protection than victims of attempted murder and murder.
Why is that? Who sat down and decided that these cases, which in these he said/she said situations are far less violent and terrifying than many other types of crimes, demanded all of these special accomodations. Furthermore, if we all agree that the alleged victim's identity and past behavior are off limits, shouldn't the same protections be afforded the accused?
Posted on 10/9/14 at 1:34 pm to roadGator
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It's more risky to falsely accuse someone of rape.
Since the military's new protocols on addressing sexual assault, proven false accusations have increased dramatically. That was put out in our last SAPR stand-down, but won't be making the news anytime soon. The repercussions are generally minimal. And I'll got ahead and say it: most of the girls in question already had pretty terrible reputations and didn't really stand to lose much in the department. I imagine that applies in a lot of these cases, which is why the whole "no alluding to sexual past/slut shaming" piece is such a big part of these cases.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 2:42 pm to Navytiger74
The current system for handling sexual assault accusations on college campuses is horrifically flawed. In 2011, the Department of Education declared that a college would be considered guilty of sexual discrimination in violation of Title IX if it used anything higher than a "preponderance of the evidence" standard in student conduct hearings involving accusations of sexual assault. When it comes to this special class of accusations, colleges cannot wait on or defer to law enforcement officials or prosecutors' offices and they cannot use higher standards of proof, such as the "clear and convincing evidence" standard that many colleges were using at the time before they would expel a student for sexual assault.
If a student is brought up on these types of student conduct charges, the student must decide whether he will compromise his defense of criminal charges (often before knowing whether he will even face criminal charges) or whether he will remain silent, preserve his criminal defenses, and face almost certain expulsion for sexual assault. The lawyer's statements sound like he thinks that it is highly unlikely that his client will face criminal charges and that it is worth the risk for his client to move forward with a vigorous defense in the student conduct proceedings.
If a student is brought up on these types of student conduct charges, the student must decide whether he will compromise his defense of criminal charges (often before knowing whether he will even face criminal charges) or whether he will remain silent, preserve his criminal defenses, and face almost certain expulsion for sexual assault. The lawyer's statements sound like he thinks that it is highly unlikely that his client will face criminal charges and that it is worth the risk for his client to move forward with a vigorous defense in the student conduct proceedings.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:09 pm to willthethrill
He did her....now the question is was it fully consensual. According to her no it wasn't but we all know how that goes. Will be interesting to see where this goes
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:17 pm to gatorsimz
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So:
-They knew each other, hung out before, and the girl texted Treon after the UT game
-The girl was not drunk
-The girl banged a different dude less than an hour before she said she was sexually assaulted.
-The girl was the sexual aggressor with both Treon and the other dude
Her having sex an hour before the incident doesn't mean she wanted to have sex with Treon.
But it is better that they are investigating this now.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:18 pm to willthethrill
The QB at UF is only good enough for sloppy seconds 
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:18 pm to WiredToTheJD
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You don't put that statement out there with your name on it if you are only 99% true of the facts you put in the statement.
Seriously? Don't you remember Bill Clinton's infamous "I did not have sex with that woman!" statement? Lawyers flat out lie all the time. Not saying this is the case now...but yes, lawyers and other people say stuff like that knowing full well they can't back it up.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:20 pm to roadGator
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It's more risky to falsely accuse someone of rape. Well, that is, if there were actually repercussions applied to the accuser.
Bingo. I've never heard of a case where a flase accuser was ever punished. Maybe they have somewhere, sometime....but it is a rarity.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:21 pm to Pettifogger
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Media doesn't really stick around to help people rebuild after false accusations are confirmed.
Richard Jewell ring a bell to anybody? Look him up.
You are completely correct, Pettifogger.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:34 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:35 pm to Kritten
No one is reading all that shite man...
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