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Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Gray


I thought we were going to miss him and badly. We didn't at all.

ETA: Nm. I thought you were talking about OU. Mixed your post up with a different one.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 9:39 pm
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9001 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

They have never touched this level of recruiting


Recruiting is part of the puzzle, but I see aggy is declaring themselves recruiting champions. Wasn't Arik Gilbert one of the highest rated recruits ever, look how that worked out.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

There’s plenty of examples of programs who recruited at a monumental level and never got it done.


Name them. Name all of the teams besides t.u. who outrecruited everyone else in their conference and didn't get it done.



Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

Wasn't Arik Gilbert one of the highest rated recruits ever, look how that worked out.


Tied for #113
Posted by Madix
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
213 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:58 pm to
As Torque mentioned it was the perfect storm. A lot of people believe it is NIL deals, but in all honesty I do not think our players made that much money this past year. If they did the kid would be bragging about it, and the info would be out there. Public knowledge of NIL deals is a good thing - why do you think Saban mentioned Bryce Young’s NIL deal? The biggest impact is this…. We have recruited some REALLY good kids the past 3 season, and they are extremely close. All the recruits talked about this family/brotherhood being the biggest draw during interviews. The early commits in this class also did an outstanding job in recruiting.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
70186 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:03 pm to
Number 1 recruiting classes this century that didn’t win a championship:

Miami 2004

USC 2005 and 2006

Notre Dame 2008

Florida 2010

FSU 2001

Tennessee 2000




Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16958 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:03 pm to
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A&M was ahead of the game with the new rules. Gotta give them credit honestly

Where was Kelly and LSU? I thought they were better than Texas A&M and should've been better at using NIL than Texas A&M and some of the lesser schools like Mizzou and Kentucky!
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
70186 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:07 pm to
Don’t be a tard
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:12 pm to
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This year was the perfect storm for A&M to haul in a monster recruiting class.

Their NIL plus Texas was awful along with coaching changes at LSU and OU.


You left out one thing, the banner year for talent in the Houston area.

A&M leads for 2 5-star players from the Houston area and signed 10 4-star players from the Houston area.
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:24 pm to
The Houston area always seems to be strong. If I were a coach and could put a recruiting fence around any metro area Houston would probably be the one.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16958 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

The Houston area always seems to be strong. If I were a coach and could put a recruiting fence around any metro area Houston would probably be the one.


But Houston isn't that big of a football program. That is why players go elsewhere like Texas, Texas A&M, Alabama, and other good football programs.
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
3806 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:32 pm to
I wasn't talking about the University of Houston. I was talking about the high school talent that comes out of Houston and its surrounding areas.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 10:42 pm
Posted by BoomReload
Member since Dec 2021
31 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:36 pm to
Don't forget Covid. That helped. Especially with the 7 extra spots.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18451 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Name them. Name all of the teams besides t.u. who outrecruited everyone else in their conference and didn't get it done.


Georgia was the last one. Had the #1 recruiting class of 2018. This is the 4th year for these recruits. Maybe they finish it this year.

2018 - SEC Eastern Division champion
SEC Championship Game, L 28–35 vs. Alabama
Sugar Bowl, L 21–28 vs. Texas

2019 - SEC Eastern Division champion
Sugar Bowl champion
SEC Championship Game, L 10–37 vs. LSU
Sugar Bowl, W 26–14 vs. Baylor

2020 - Peach Bowl champion
Peach Bowl, W 24–21 vs. Cincinnati

2021 - SEC Eastern Division champion
SEC Championship Game, L 24–41 vs. Alabama
Orange Bowl (CFP Semifinal), vs. Michigan
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18581 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:03 am to
Randy gets it. You don’t.

If you removed every 5 star in our class, we’d still have the best class we have ever recruited.

If you removed every offensive player from the list, we still have a 300+ score and the best class we have signed.

Jimbi has never signed more than 7 top 100 kids in a class. There are 7 on offense and 7 on defense in this class. (With 3 more to come.)

We have as many top 100 kids as the Big 12, PAC, and ACC combined.

It’s the highest rated class in the history of recruiting.

Texas, the number 5 class, has 3 top 100 kids.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14631 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:05 am to
A&M is building a culture of family and personal relationships. It's a big change since the Sumlin swagger culture. And it's one that both players and their parents are attracted to.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75818 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:07 am to
quote:

Get your jokes in while you can, they won't be finishing 7-5 or 8-4 much longer.


With a class like this they may even finish 9-3.

Dream big.

Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8796 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:24 am to
In the '00s teams that had the #1 Recruiting Class had about half the Top 100 Players they do now. Just a different world. You know what was the best Recruiting Class of the '00s though? 2002 Texas led by a guy named Vince Young.

The last #1 that really fizzled was Florida 2010 but that was also right before Urban left and UF was left to Muschamp.

Talent doesn't win it alone but acting like it doesn't matter just makes you look like a fool. It's the single best predictor of success just like picking the best kids to play on your team at recess. The biggest challenge A&M has is Bama and UGA have been doing this for years and this is our first time really recruiting at this level and we have to get through them.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:41 am to
Fun fact:

Of the highest rated players A&M has ever signed, #1, #4, #10, and #15 are all in this class.

If Harold Perkins signs with A&M he becomes #4
If Shemar Stewart signs with A&M he becomes #7
If Denver Harris signs with A&M he becomes #12

The 2022 class could quite literally have the #1, #4, #5, #8, #12, #14, #18 and #29 all time A&M signees in the same class.

#1 Walter Nolan
#2 Myles Garrett
#3 Reggie McNeal
-HAROLD PERKINS-
#4 Evan Stewart
#5 Kyle Allen
#6 Speedy Noil
-SHEMAR STEWART-
#7 Martellus Bennett
#8 Kenyon Green
#9 Jorrie Adams
#10 Gabriel Brownlow-Dindy
#11 DeMarvin Leal
-DENVER HARRIS-
#12 Daylon Mack
#13 Jaylon Jones
#14 Trey Williams
#15 Conner Weigman
#16 Christian Kirk
#17 Demond Demas
#18 Mike Goodson
#19 Christine Michael
#20 Ricky Seals-Jones
#21 Shemar Turner
#22 Jami Hightower
#23 Kyler Murray
#24 Thomas Johnson
#25 Justin Warren (composite 4 star)

Enai White is .0001 below Justin Warren
This post was edited on 12/18/21 at 1:44 am
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8796 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 2:01 am to
quote:

t was kind of painful seeing you go 7-6 with Tannehill, Swope, Gray, etc


Tannehill was a 3 Star and the #630 Player in the country. Ryan Swope was a 3 Star and the #600 Player in the country. Gray however was a 4 Star and #70, he would just barely be in the Top half of the A&M Class this year. We simply have never recruited at this level before, we have had talent for sure but not this depth of talent.

You can find gems but it's hard to win consistently with that level of talent. The 2007 Class for A&M was one of our lowest ranked ever at 41 but it had 2 guys that were 3 Stars who turned out pretty good. Tannehill and some guy named Von Miller (who was the 288th best player in that class). Problem is they didn't have enough talent around them to compete consistently with the talent at Texas and OU at the time.
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