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Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:14 pm to bamaatlsu
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it was an impressive bowl win and it saved lsu's season. However, if you would take your chick-fil-a bowl win over a sugar bowl appearance and being atop the rankings for half the season, you are either an idiot or just lying
I think the point is LSU embarrassed ourselves during the regular season but made up for a lot of it by getting a dominating Peach bowl win. Florida had a few close calls and some unfortunate things fall their way in the regular season, but embarrassed themselves in the Capital One Bowl losing to a Big Ten team who lost to a IAA team. Both teams embarrassed themselves at some point. You can argue one over the other, but they both embarrassed themselves.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:15 pm to jefforize
well if the term "gave" can be derived from costly, game changing turnovers, then yes, both games were "given" away.
Both teams, in both games, fought hard to get to those points. However JPW's fumble from CJ's sack was indeed a "giveaway", just as much as JL's ill advised prayer into double coverage into OT was a "giveaway".
most football games have turnovers, but ones that occur from pure stupidity (JPW not protecting the ball, JL throwing bad pass into double coverage) in the 4th quarter/OT can indeed be viewed as "giving the game away" in my opinion
Both teams, in both games, fought hard to get to those points. However JPW's fumble from CJ's sack was indeed a "giveaway", just as much as JL's ill advised prayer into double coverage into OT was a "giveaway".
most football games have turnovers, but ones that occur from pure stupidity (JPW not protecting the ball, JL throwing bad pass into double coverage) in the 4th quarter/OT can indeed be viewed as "giving the game away" in my opinion
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:17 pm to bamaatlsu
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I get that Les has great bowl game preparation skills, but he lost to arkansas. He's losing to that Utah team, too. LSU might not have gotten whipped like Bama did, but the Gators are the only team in the SEC that could've beaten Utah that day
How do you know for sure we would have lost? We have blown out everyone in bowl games under Les. We completely dismantled a good GT team who was at worst only slightly worse than Utah. I think Bama plays much better if their starting Oline is in-tact. I mean, they couldn't open up any running lanes and allowed what, 8 sacks? You're just never going to win playing like that. Bama picked a bad game to play their worst all year, especially defensively.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:18 pm to jefforize
yeah, you could say that for both games, but I feel like JPW's fumble was more of a giveaway.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:18 pm to thunderbird1100
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I think the point is LSU embarrassed ourselves during the regular season but made up for a lot of it by getting a dominating Peach bowl win. Florida had a few close calls and some unfortunate things fall their way in the regular season, but embarrassed themselves in the Capital One Bowl losing to a Big Ten team who lost to a IAA team. Both teams embarrassed themselves at some point. You can argue one over the other, but they both embarrassed themselves.
i agree with you thunderbird, but not sure why you quoted my post.
And btw, i like the new avatar much better than the motorcycle pic
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Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:18 pm to jefforize
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Utah was an explosive passing team
No they weren't.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:20 pm to thunderbird1100
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We completely dismantled a good GT team who was at worst only slightly worse than Utah.
Come one dude, GT was OKAY last year, and to say they were slightly worse than Utah is just idiotic.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:20 pm to Funky Tide 8
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yeah, you could say that for both games, but I feel like JPW's fumble was more of a giveaway
without a doubt. Rashad johnson atleast had to make a play, and took it away, even though it was a bad pass and ill advised.
Chad Jones did make an amazing play, but for JPW to lose the football at the 10 yard line from it hitting his shoe because he was holding it like a loaf of broad was certainly more of a giveaway
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:23 pm to jefforize
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No they weren't
on that particular day, they were. Bama's corners were in pretty decent coverage but Brian Johnson's accuracy was out of this world that night
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:23 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Come one dude, GT was OKAY last year, and to say they were slightly worse than Utah is just idiotic.
Are you serious? If GT played Utah it would be a very tight game that could go either way. GT was 1 win short of 10 wins last year and they didn't get to play in the MWC (as mediocre as the ACC is, it's still tougher than the MWC). If Utah was in the ACC they wouldn't of gone undefeated.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:23 pm to thunderbird1100
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How do you know for sure we would have lost? We have blown out everyone in bowl games under Les. We completely dismantled a good GT team who was at worst only slightly worse than Utah. I think Bama plays much better if their starting Oline is in-tact. I mean, they couldn't open up any running lanes and allowed what, 8 sacks? You're just never going to win playing like that. Bama picked a bad game to play their worst all year, especially defensively
I don't. 'Know' was a strong word and I shouldn't have used it. But I saw both teams play in person, and I felt Utah was a better team than LSU last year. Offensively, LSU might've kept up better than Bama did, but Johnson would've throttled you guys just like he did Bama. Alabama had a better pass defense than LSU did last year, right? If this correct, and we couldn't stop him, I don't see LSU stopping him. Anything is possible, I guess
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:24 pm to jefforize
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on that particular day, they were. Bama's corners were in pretty decent coverage but Brian Johnson's accuracy was out of this world that night
But they were not an "explosive passing team". They are a run/pass balanced spread offense.
Theirr offensive philosophy is not like that of Texas Tech or Hawai'i.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:26 pm to thunderbird1100
our d would have had trouble with them but our o would have rolled them over. scott would have set a rushing record against utahs d
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:31 pm to heartbreakTiger
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our d would have had trouble with them but our o would have rolled them over. scott would have set a rushing record against utahs d
and what makes you think this?
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:31 pm to thunderbird1100
While i may have overstated Utah's passing attack for the entire season, as no they did not have a 3000 yard passer, i think we both can agree that on that night, judging from what they did to Bama's secondary, they would have torched ours.
However, the topic is moot. it is impossible to tell. games are not played on paper. Perhaps we do beat Utah. Perhaps we get a turnover early, seize momentum in the superdown, perhaps Tyson Jackson hurts Brian Johnson... who knows. Its all speculation honestly. Different players doing different things tend to yield different results.
the only things we know for sure is that LSU throttled Georgia Tech and Utah jumped on Bama so fast that Saban was thinking of returning that text message from Dan Snyder
However, the topic is moot. it is impossible to tell. games are not played on paper. Perhaps we do beat Utah. Perhaps we get a turnover early, seize momentum in the superdown, perhaps Tyson Jackson hurts Brian Johnson... who knows. Its all speculation honestly. Different players doing different things tend to yield different results.
the only things we know for sure is that LSU throttled Georgia Tech and Utah jumped on Bama so fast that Saban was thinking of returning that text message from Dan Snyder
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:39 pm to Funky Tide 8
the fact that scott ran all over yalls d.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:43 pm to bamaatlsu
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1) Titanic
2) Hindenberg
3) 2000 Alabama Football
4) Clear Pepsi
5) Les Miles
you should replace the titanic with the sultana.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:46 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Jaydeaux, you belong solely on the TigerRant
Yeah, I mean the crimson stink owns this board right? It's a solid assumption which is more than I can say for many of your gump buddies.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:49 pm to heartbreakTiger
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heartbreakTiger
Top 5 most "disappointing" seasons in SEC, last 10 years
our d would have had trouble with them but our o would have rolled them over. scott would have set a rushing record against utahs d
Well we would know if LSU hadn't lost 5 games.
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