re: Top 3 RBs production wise this season

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1. Trent Richardson
2. Marcus Lattimore
3. Michael Dyer
4. Spencer Ware
5. Knile Davis

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If Knile Davis was ahead of Dyer ad Ware, I would agree 100%.

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Why don't you look at number of carries in your in-depth analysis?

Davis - 204 - 15.7/game
Lattimore - 249 - 19.2/game
Dyer - 182 - 13/game

I know it's a hard concept, but >carries = >yards.

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This has absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of this thread. Do the following:

1. Re-read the title of this thread and notice that it asks to name the top 3 RBs "production wise" this season. Notice that it makes no mention of who gets the most carries per game.

2. Realize that even if you want to play the productivity card, that Davis still had a higher yard/carry average than Dyer. In regards to Lattimore, yes, he had a lower carry/average, which is one of the many reasons I placed Knile over him and Dyer for this coming season.

3. Clinch your fist into a tight ball and smack yourself in the head 3 times for being so dumb.

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Is this not the same scenario as Dyer?

Tate (2009) - 263 carries - 20.2/game

I personally think it will be along the lines of 16-18 a game.

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No, not really.

While both RBs will most likely get more carries, Trent will be doing it behind a veteran o-line on a team that I think will rely on their potent defense and rushing attack to win games. McElroy was a safe, consistent option for them with lots of experience, but with a questionable QB under the helm coupled with an awesome o-line, I can see Alabama playing conservative football and will let their defense do most of the talking.

Auburn will not have that luxury. With an inexperienced O-line they aren't going to be able to rely on a slow and steady running game (not that they would have anyways with Gus at the helm). I think their offense is going to have to resort to trying to get outside in open field for yardage, with a lot of passing yards, but not so much rushing yards. I could be completely wrong, but this is what I think from what I've seen.

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You do know there is a difference between how your DLine defends against the pass vs. the rush, right? You do know that every team was more worried about Mallett sitting in the pocket all day than handing the ball off, right?

Why do you think slip-screens, draws, etc work so well on obvious passing downs?

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Of course, but Cam was also capable of throwing the deep ball as WELL as running. He was better than anyone that I've seen in regards to standing in the pocket and when the line was collapsing was able to scramble for 10+ yards. This partially explains why Auburn was second in the nation in offensive plays of 25+ yards and touchdowns of 25+ yards last season.

In addition, you knew that when the Hogs were going to do a running play, it was going to involve Mallett handing the ball off to someone else. With Auburn, there was just as good of a chance of Cam handing it off as it was for him to keep it himself. Even if you would run the same coverage play for either team, the fact that you have to account for Cam's ability to run means that less attention was given to the actual running back.

You aren't going to convince me that having Mallett as the QB took more pressure off of the RBs than having Cam as the QB. Just isn't going to happen.

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Yet all of them still had more rushing yards than Spencer Ware. Fannin was the same type of back Dyer is, he just fumbled a lot.

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How is ware suppose to get rushing yards in crowton's inept offense as a FB and WR? answer that. Do you enjoy running sideways?

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You only relied on one person, yet Ware couldn't get more than 180 yards? That's what I am getting at. We had 4 players that carried a lot. They all took time away from Dyer, yet Ware couldn't go in a get some playing time since y'all only relied on 1 person

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I'll say it again.... We were one dimensional. Ware was listed as RB, but played FB and WR out of the back field for most of the season. Jesus Christ!

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Just out of curiousity, what are other schools freshman records?

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I know UGA's is like 1,600, and Arkansas' is around 1,200.

McFadden

soph?

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The coaching staff must not have been very high on him.

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Or he was a true freshman, Ridley was experienced, and proved to be an excellent "every down" SEC RB. something Dyer DID NOT have in front of him.

COULD THAT BE IT? I don't understand how you don't see that Ridley was the better option last year Vs a true freshman RB. Auburn had dyer, a fumbler, and a scat back to compliment newton. Once it was clear you couldn't rely on fanin dyer took over.

Ridley never faltered other than game 1 with his only two fumbles of the season. He had back to back to back 100 yd games. There was no reason to risk ware when we had Ridley, and blue. We needed a FB. Ware didn't start playing more RB till we discovered former DT copeland was a mauler at FB.

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This has absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of this thread

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Good lord you are dumb.

1.) Dyer WILL have over 200 carries this year. He was a TRFR and had less than 10 carries in 6 out of the 14 games.

2.)Since he WILL have more carries, your more 'productive' argument from last season has absolutely ZERO to do with this upcoming year. But if you're going to do it, at least add in YPC in the discussion. Why someone would bring up last year to forecast the upcoming year with Auburn, and the offense, should jump out the window and do the whole world a favor.

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No, not really.

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3.) I didn't say the same with the OLine. Try to keep up, junior.

Sharing runs with a heisman winner - check
More carries - check
Unknown QB - check

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With an inexperienced O-line they aren't going to be able to rely on a slow and steady running game (not that they would have anyways with Gus at the helm). I think their offense is going to have to resort to trying to get outside in open field for yardage, with a lot of passing yards, but not so much rushing yards. I could be completely wrong, but this is what I think from what I've seen.

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3.) Thank god you are not an offensive coordinator. So Auburn will have 3 new starters on the OLine and your brilliant solution is to throw MORE. You do know pass blocking is more difficult than run blocking, right? Yes, you are completely wrong. 100%. You couldn't be MORE wrong. Malzahn has ALWAYS been at least 50/50 with pass/run. And more along the lines of 40/60.

2006 - 36/64
2007 - 50/50
2008 - 39/61
2009 - 40/60
2010 - 31/69

Apparently, you haven't seen anything.

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You aren't going to convince me that having Mallett as the QB took more pressure off of the RBs than having Cam as the QB.

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5.) I never said Mallett took more pressure off than Cam. But you tried to act like Mallett took absolutely zero pressure of the run game which is a load of bullshite.

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Or he was a true freshman, Ridley was experienced, and proved to be an excellent "every down" SEC RB. something Dyer DID NOT have in front of him.

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Ridley was about as "proven" as Fannin was. In 2009, Ridley only rushed for a whopping 180 yards. In 2008, a whopping 92 yards. Actually, Fannin was MORE PROVEN than Ridley at the beggining of last season. He just never fixed his fumbling problem.

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COULD THAT BE IT? I don't understand how you don't see that Ridley was the better option last year Vs a true freshman RB

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I never said Ridley should've started. But him only gaining 175 yards and then being touted as a top 3 SEC back is humorous. He could've at LEAST gotten 3-400 yards.

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Auburn had dyer, a fumbler, and a scat back to compliment newton. Once it was clear you couldn't rely on fanin dyer took over.

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You forgot one... We also had Cam Newton. Still, all the of the above took away A LOT of carries from Dyer. Cam Newton was our better option last year, and Dyer still had over 1,000 yards as a true freshman.

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Ridley never faltered other than game 1 with his only two fumbles of the season. He had back to back to back 100 yd games. There was no reason to risk ware when we had Ridley, and blue. We needed a FB. Ware didn't start playing more RB till we discovered former DT copeland was a mauler at FB.

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Well, that's all fine and dandy, but isn't Ware better than Blue? Or does LSU have another top 3 SEC running back just waiting on the bench? These are all just excuses.

I guess you didn't see the comment when I noted that I was clearly fricking with you.

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memphisplaya

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They just don't know that Frank Wilson and co. prefers the feature back.

It was a nice change from the game by game (it seems) constant substitutions of RBs (Scott/Williams) from the previous year to the point where neither RB had no rhythm. Our single-season rushing yard total went from about 1,100 in 2009 to about 1,800 in 2010.