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re: The WSJ take on the bottle-throwing incident

Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by morganwadefan
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:46 pm to
On SXM Full Ride, Childers & Nueheisel asked a couple of coaches if they had ever seen that happen where the ball was spotted and play was ready, then the referees stop and discuss. It’s crazy because PI is not reviewable, but no one can convince me at least one of the referees in the discussion saw the replay on the video board.
I think if that scenario happens in Starkville, the call is not reviewed or overturned and we get flagged 15 yds for delay of game for throwing trash onto field.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:48 pm to
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I also don’t mean this to be personal, I actually find many of your posts humorous… but you have your head up your arse on this one.



but you have no way of explaining your point other than ad hominin insults

you have no idea what you're talking about

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:49 pm to
wow really?
Posted by TexasOnTop
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:52 pm to
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once the ball is in the air, it belongs to both the receiver and the defender


Correct, but only one in the video is making a play on the ball.

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if the receiver "slows down to come back to the ball" and moves through the body of the trailing defender to do it, it's either no call, or it's actually pass interference against the offense

The receiver slows down, he does not move through the defenders body, the defender runs into him.

The defender is not looking at the ball until after he runs into Wingo. Therefor he’s not making a play on the ball. Easy PI.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:53 pm to
Keep seeing

“We’re better than that”

That’s what parents tells their kids to feel better about themselves. And it does nothing.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:54 pm to
I dunno, you're a chill guy, but then you randomly start swearing and getting really angry. It's the only logical explanation I can think of.

And even if it's true, it's not a judgment.

Still, probably not my place to say. Sorry.
Posted by PoundTheRock
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:55 pm to
He'll be rooting for Tennessee before you know it.

At least when we throw stuff, we actually hit someone.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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47179 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Correct, but only one in the video is making a play on the ball.



I've explained this

The defender is allowed to play defense
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6187 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:58 pm to
To make a play on the ball you have to be looking at the ball. Playing defense isn’t running into the receiver. It’s getting eyes on the ball and making a play on it. He’s not looking at the ball and runs into the receiver as THE RECEIVER is making a play on the ball.

In your logic, 23 on the Rams is playing clean defense.

This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:58 pm to
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The receiver slows down, he does not move through the defenders body, the defender runs into him.



Once again, this is prime to you admitting you have no clue what you're talking about

football does not revolve around slow motion video game milliseconds narrated by Cheetos eaters who never climbed a tree
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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47179 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:00 pm to
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The defender is not looking at the ball until after he runs into Wingo. Therefor he’s not making a play on the ball. Easy PI.



I've explained THIS as well





HE'S NOT REQUIRED TO MAKE A PLAY ON THE BALL


he has a right to play defense. If the WR causes the collision by slowing down, it's a no call, period


you're an idiot
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:01 pm to
You do understand what “though the body” means right. How do you go through someone’s body when you’re moving backwards?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:01 pm to
Chicken, this is what happens on SECRANT in regard to actual x's and o's


You have to explain things to idiots, seven times, and then they still refuse to acknowledge it
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
47179 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:03 pm to
it's okay


I'm in the latter stages of giving up on the game of football because i'ts been taken over by douchebag pussy Fantasy Football idiots and Vegas and ESPN TV ratings


love you man
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6187 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

HE'S NOT REQUIRED TO MAKE A PLAY ON THE BALL


You can’t run into a receiver without making a play on the ball

quote:

he has a right to play defense. If the WR causes the collision by slowing down, it's a no call, period


You’re an idiot. This is the exact reason QBs throw a deep 1 on 1 ball to a WR. Chances are good that the WR catches the ball or you get a PI for this exact reason.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:06 pm to
I love you too, my brother in Christ.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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47179 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:06 pm to
Now I know you're just a pathological liar, because #23 of the Rams on that was blatant pass interference


You're literally a disingenuous liar


That video versus the one on page two of this thread are nothing similar

holy shite
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Chicken, this is what happens on SECRANT in regard to actual x's and o's


You have to explain things to idiots, seven times, and then they still refuse to acknowledge it

True.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47179 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Playing defense isn’t running into the receiver. It’s getting eyes on the ball and making a play on it.



for the fourth time, the defender is not required to make a play on the ball


hard headed idiot


the defender has every right to play defense



there's a rule for defensive backs: if you feel you are beat, you chase and don't look back, if you feel you have proper coverage, you turn and look for the ball - the decision making process is judged in milliseconds


but please, go ahead and argue the same bullshite 5 more times
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6187 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

HE'S NOT REQUIRED TO MAKE A PLAY ON THE BALL




While this is an NFL video, the rules are the same in this context. THE DEFENDER MUST PLAY THE BALL IF THEY ARE MAKING CONTACT.
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