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re: The UGA and UF "late hits", eye gouging video and pics
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:36 am to Buck Magnum
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:36 am to Buck Magnum
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No defending him but there's always two sides to the story. Brandon just happened to get caught...
What is the flip side to Mike Tyson biting Holyfield's ear.
Holyfield had dipped his ear in honey-mustard between rounds. Tyson was starving as he was busy beating his girlfriend and missed his pre-bout meal. Clearly Tyson was provoked
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:55 am to rockygator
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What is the flip side to Mike Tyson biting Holyfield's ear.
Holyfield was mutilated... Ealey was not...
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:57 am to The Ramp
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it means he has not been tackled and the play is still going....i.e. not a late hit on tebow. i feel like i'm talking to second graders here.
I know I'm talking to a 2nd grader. Whether the play is "still going" has nothing to do with whether the hit on Tebow was legal. Get a fricking clue.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:16 am to arrakis
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I know I'm talking to a 2nd grader. Whether the play is "still going" has nothing to do with whether the hit on Tebow was legal. Get a fricking clue
dear clueless,
the arguement (which has been going for several posts now) is if it a "late hit." please follow along or quit replying to me. thanks,
sincerly,
those of us who have a clue
This post was edited on 11/3/09 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:21 am to The Ramp
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those of us who have a clue
The announcers have a clue...
Posted on 11/3/09 at 11:26 am to The Ramp
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the arguement (which has been going for several posts now) is if it a "late hit." please follow along or quit replying to me. thanks,
sincerly,
those of us who have a clue
Guess you really don't...according to the rule book.
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9-1-2-j No player shall run into or throw himself against an opponent obviously out of the play either before or after the ball is dead
Posted on 11/3/09 at 11:28 am to arrakis
BOOM MF!
Posted on 11/3/09 at 11:57 am to gatorrocks
Once again for the two clueless posters:
I simply made a comment that it was not a LATE hit as the blue link on the original post implies. It was not a LATE hit. Again for the clueless ones, the arguement was not whether it was LEGAL or not, the arguement was over if it was LATE or not. I said it was not a LATE hit. Again...LATE...not LEGAL...LATE..not LEGAL...got it? My gawd...learn how to read before you insult people.
PS-LATE not LEGAL
PSS-LATE not LEGAL
BOOOM MF!!!
I simply made a comment that it was not a LATE hit as the blue link on the original post implies. It was not a LATE hit. Again for the clueless ones, the arguement was not whether it was LEGAL or not, the arguement was over if it was LATE or not. I said it was not a LATE hit. Again...LATE...not LEGAL...LATE..not LEGAL...got it? My gawd...learn how to read before you insult people.
PS-LATE not LEGAL
PSS-LATE not LEGAL
BOOOM MF!!!
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:07 pm to arrakis
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9-1-2-j No player shall run into or throw himself against an opponent obviously out of the play either before or after the ball is dead
OK..now let's argue whether it was LEGAL or not:
clearly the rule states you can't hit a player out of the play before or after the ball is dead. Since the ball was was not dead, it was LEGAL. You can see the running back still moving forward as Tebow was hit. Since we can't hear the whislte, the arguement is conjecture but one would assume the ref did not blow the whistle until the RB's knee hit the ground which at the time it hasn't. Thank you for pulling up that rule and solidifying my arguement. Albeit it dirty, it is still LEGAL.
BOOM MF!
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:25 pm to The Ramp
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clearly the rule states you can't hit a player out of the play before or after the ball is dead. Since the ball was was not dead, it was LEGAL.
Dammit boy, you are one stupid sonofabitch. I've already posted the rule which states whether the ball is live or dead has nothing to do with the legality of the hit.
Hitting a player out of the play while the ball is live = illegal
Hitting a player out of the play while the ball is dead = illegal
What part don't you get?
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:30 pm to arrakis
Guys, this eye gouging thing by Spikes was no big deal. If he had in fact caused the guy to go blind, Jesus...I mean Tebow would have simply just cured his blindness. No harm, no foul...hence the light punishment. Its not so hard to understand.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:32 pm to The Ramp
The only somewhat reasonable argument you could make for that hit being legal is that it was a read handoff and that linebacker was probably told that if he sees that play he is supposed to ignore the back and go after Tebow. It looked like he recognized that Tebow didn't have the ball though. But pushing a guy down still isn't justification for trying to blind someone.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:38 pm to Robot Santa
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The only somewhat reasonable argument you could make for that hit being legal is that it was a read handoff and that linebacker was probably told that if he sees that play he is supposed to ignore the back and go after Tebow.
That's pretty much it.
Depending on Tebow's action during the play set, it is possible he could run a variation of the play by faking the hand off and pitching to the trailing back.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:40 pm to arrakis
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Dammit boy, you are one stupid sonofabitch
you're the one who couldn't see i was arguing the timing of the hit. I said SEVERAL times that the blue link that states it was a LATE hit was incorrect. You're are clearly the one who is the "stupid sonofabitch". How many times do I have to say LATE. Why can't you understand that was what I was agruing early. Again...LATE not LEGAL. One more time...LATE not LEGAL.
Now back the second arguement. I will argue this with you if can refrain from second grade name calling. Where in the rule that you posted does it say it doesn't matter whether the all is live or not? It says "No player shall run into or throw himself against an opponent obviously out of the play either before or after the ball is dead". It doesn't say during. You may be right on this rule but the ruling is worded poorly.
This post was edited on 11/3/09 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:41 pm to The Ramp
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Dammit boy, you are one stupid sonofabitch
you're the one who couldn't see i was arguing the timing of the hit. I said SEVERAL times that the blue link that states it was a LATE hit was incorrect. You're are clearly the one who is the "stupid sonofabitch". How many times do I have to say LATE. Why can't you understand that was what I was agruing early. Again...LATE not LEGAL. One more time...LATE not LEGAL.
Now back the second arguement. I will argue this with you if can refrain from second grade name calling. Where in the rule that you posted does it say it doesn't matter whether the all is live or not? It says "before or after" the play.
You are pretty clearly wrong here. Arguing further just makes you look stubborn...and still wrong
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:45 pm to gatorrocks
The late hit while "cheap" is still legal, correct? Just like hitting the QB when he's running an option, which is what that play was?
This post was edited on 11/3/09 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:45 pm to rockygator
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You are pretty clearly wrong here. Arguing further just makes you look stubborn...and still wrong
I may be wrong on the second arguement. I don't mind saying that. I still think it's worded poorly. I was arguing early over the timing of the hit before he went all second-grade on me. It was not a LATE hit as the blue link implied. That is what I said earlier and I stand by that.
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:47 pm to Robot Santa
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It looked like he recognized that Tebow didn't have the ball though. But pushing a guy down still isn't justification for trying to blind someone.
Why is no one talking about the fact that it appeared to be retaliation for someone appearing to do the same thing to spikes earlier in the game? When it was pretty obvious a hand went into his helment angled upward (towards the eyes) and ripped his helment off in the process?
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:48 pm to The Ramp
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Now back the second arguement. I will argue this with you if can refrain from second grade name calling.
You were the one who started with the "2nd grader" comments:
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i feel like i'm talking to second graders here.
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Where in the rule that you posted does it say it doesn't matter whether the all is live or not? It says "before or after" the play.
No it doesn't.
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9-1-2-j No player shall run into or throw himself against an opponent obviously out of the play either before or after the ball is dead
Reading isn't your strong suit, is it?
Posted on 11/3/09 at 12:53 pm to arrakis
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Reading isn't your strong suit, is it?
OK...I get it now. Much apologies. I did read the ruling wrong. But you still atacked me over your poor reading skills. I was not talking earlier about the legality of the play but the blue link. I am a man to admit I was wrong about the second arguement. I did not know the ruling but I was only commenting on the "late hit" issue earlier in the thread.
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