re: The SEC dominance continues....

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despite getting hit and roughed up.

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So how did he get hit & roughed up more than at any point of the season?? Before the game I thought Bradford was overrated because of his OL, but he impressed me by the way he faced down the blitz.

UF took control of the game and PHYSICALLY DOMINATED the line of scrimmage by wearing them down at the end. Hence the 2 long drives at the end.

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I mean the Rebels shite stomped us a lot worse than Tech.

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Not really, and if Tech is comparable to LSU this season, and was in a 3-way tie for the Big 12 South with the Big 12's other two "major teams", how strong do you think that conference really was?

I mean, you're comparing the beat down Ole Miss put on the team that beat Texas and tied them and OU for the Big 12 South with a 7-1 conference record, to the beat down Ole Miss put on a team that went 3-5 in SEC play. Doesn't that kind of prove the point of the thread?

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Highly touted BigXII South lost 3 out of 4 bowl games. They were physically manhandled in all 3 losses for the most part.

BigXII had a cute little regular season but I think they were a little exposed in the bowls.

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This was your original post I was replying to. I don't think that because they may have been worn down at the end of the game against UF or that Oregon ran for a lot of yards that that means they had a "cute little regular season" and were "physically manhandled" and "exposed" in the bowls.

I think they played very good teams in the bowl matchups and lost, but I think they had a lot of very good teams that they had to play week in and week out in the regular season to an extent that no other conference had to this year and that isn't the same as a team having a month to prepare for one game against them.

Sure UF was more physical than OU, but that wasn't in doubt going in to the game. But OU was able to withstand that physical punishment better than most would have thought, and made a great game out of it.

I think that while Florida was the best team, the Big 12 was the best conference this year. Just my opinion though.

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I mean the Rebels shite stomped us a lot worse than Tech.

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Apparently you didn't watch the Cotton Bowl then.

Against TT
292 yards passing (10.1 yards per pass)
223 yards rushing (5 yards per rush)

Against LSU
307 yards passing (11.8 ypp)
102 rushing yards (2.3 ypr)

You make the call

3 plays that could have led to the Rebels dropping 60+ on Tech.

1: Brandon Bolden fumbling the ball on Tech goal line which led to safety. +5
2: Marshay Green punt return for TD called back and Sheen missing chip shot. +7 or +3
3: End of the game, Ole Miss driving in final minute. Snead and Nutt must have been thinking, "We could easily score here and shove it up Tech's rear, but we don't want to piss anyone off, so we'll just go ahead and take this knee." +7

Score could have easily been 66 or 62 to 34. (and that's with letting Tech score at the end of the game with the prevent D!)

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I just happen to think QB play is extremely important, and I think that the QB play of the Big 12 was much better than that of the SEC this year.

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Going into this year I thought Tigers would be fine with their QB's because of the strenght surrounding them and the defense. I'll never underestimate the importance of having a good QB again.

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LSU got destroyed

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True dat. That was the most uninspired Tiger performance since '02 Bama game I think. Embarassing.

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We will agree to disagree, and if you still feel this way next year, maybe we can put a couple of little wagers together come bowl season to test our theories out.

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I'm definitely only talking about THIS YEAR. But is it really so difficult for an SEC fan to admit that every once in a while, another conference might play some good football too.

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And if their QB play was "matched" by Ole Miss, then how did Ole Miss get beat 3 times by SEC teams and lose to Wake Forest, but Texas Tech loses just 1 in Big 12 play?

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Who knows why teams lose games they shouldn't? Hell, Ole Miss beat FLORIDA, and I don't think that Snead is better than Tebow. QB play isn't the only factor, I just think it is a very important one to consider when judging a conference's overall strength.

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But is it really so difficult for an SEC fan to admit that every once in a while, another conference might play some good football too

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Why is it that everytime someone suggests that the SEC is the strongest conference in the country, every single person who disagrees has to assume that it means we think every other conference is horrible? The Big 12 was a great conference this season. They had a great year with several very good teams. Why can't that be true, and it also be true that the SEC was better? Our 4th best team thoroughly whipped what was barely their 3rd best team. Our best team beat their best team by double digits. Our 5th best team beat a top-25 team by 35 in our bowl. Their 5th best team either lost by 11 to Oregon or beat Northwestern by 7 (depending on whether you think Missouri or Oklahoma State was better).

The Big 12's arguments for strength this year were the performances of Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma. With two of those being handled head to head by SEC teams, that argument is obviously out the window. And beyond that, they just keep coming up short vis a vis the SEC pretty much down the line.

Doesn't mean they weren't really good and didn't play some good football. It just seems pretty clear to me that we played better.

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The Big 12 was a great conference this season. They had a great year with several very good teams. Why can't that be true, and it also be true that the SEC was better?

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It absolutely can be. I just don't think it is. And while I know you aren't one of the irrational SEC fans that mindlessly claim constant superiority, they are out there.

I honestly think bowl records are overblown, even though, as you said, it is head to head. But I just think that preparing to play a single game isn't always a great indicator for how teams performed over the course of the season. LSU is a glaring example of that.

I just think week to week, over the course of the season, the majority of Big 12 teams were playing better football than the majority of SEC teams.