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re: The importance of rooting for Alabama/SEC
Posted on 12/28/09 at 12:12 pm to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 12/28/09 at 12:12 pm to LSU GrandDad
It's all about political capital, which of course you can't quantify. In the event of a tie breaker (identical or similar records) that polical capital which IMO is based largely in conference strengh plays that roll -- an undefeated Texas gets in over an undefeated Cincy. Polls make up 2/3 of the BCS and therefore perception is important. As far as I can remember the only 2 BCS Conf teams that have been left out of the NC Game -- Cincy and Auburn. In theory we go for Bama because a win would strenghen conference reputaion and serve to better LSU in the event of a timbreaker Cincy/Auburn style.
That is as far as it goes. As far as political capital, the SEC is head and shoulder above other conferences, IMO. If Florida loses and Bama loses badly, it could impact the gains the SEC has made over the last few years.
Bottom line is there is nothing that can be done with it and my thoughs have no bearing on what will play out. I don't think the conference will suffer unless Bama gets blown the hell out. I don't like Bama and am therefore not going to go for them because I feel their continued success is less helpful to LSU than their win would boost the conference (and in turn LSU) in the event of a tiebreaker.
FWIW, I would have gone for Bama if they were in the same situation as they are this year in the years 2004-2008.
That is as far as it goes. As far as political capital, the SEC is head and shoulder above other conferences, IMO. If Florida loses and Bama loses badly, it could impact the gains the SEC has made over the last few years.
Bottom line is there is nothing that can be done with it and my thoughs have no bearing on what will play out. I don't think the conference will suffer unless Bama gets blown the hell out. I don't like Bama and am therefore not going to go for them because I feel their continued success is less helpful to LSU than their win would boost the conference (and in turn LSU) in the event of a tiebreaker.
FWIW, I would have gone for Bama if they were in the same situation as they are this year in the years 2004-2008.
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 12:15 pm
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Posted on 12/28/09 at 12:13 pm to Choctaw
how does bama losing to UT mean the SEC is weak? everyone know its the best conference, that wont change unless every other team loses their bowl games.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 12:13 pm to AlejandroInHouston
...NO WAY....Hookem! 
Posted on 12/28/09 at 12:42 pm to GeauxGus
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you HAVE to root for the SEC in major bowl games - especially the MNC game.
As an LSU fan i feel obligated to ALWAYS root for the SEC teams whether its OOC games OR Bowl Games. I also root for the SEC West first and foremost when theyre playing conference games.
The next thing that sways my opinion depends on which win/loss benefits LSU's overall ranking/position AND schedule strength. I dont root for ANYONE ELSE until after all of these factors are considered.
It helps our overall conference's status when SEC teams win OOC games/Bowl games- which, in turn, favors LSU in Bowl AND MNC selection process.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:11 pm to AlejandroInHouston
I couldn't care less what happens to Auburn or Bama...it's simply not in my Universe.
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:18 pm to AlejandroInHouston
Bump the Tide.
Hook 'em!
Hook 'em!
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we jump like 6 teams after the final week ONLY because of the respect LSU had based on UF slaughtering OSU in 2006
Now you're just making stuff up....the Va Tech game was the biggest reason we were bumped up in the polls(and the fact that they were the eventual ACC champ), and winning the SECCG with a back up QB was huge too.
UGA losing bad to Tennessee, and USC losing to Stanford helped us get the nod as well, none of which had to do with 2006 UF.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:26 pm to GeauxGus
Alabama winning the National Championship would be one of the worst things to happen for LSU football. Recruiting, national perception, etc.
And honestly, how the hell could anyone actually pull for Alabama?
And honestly, how the hell could anyone actually pull for Alabama?
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:28 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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Less than 5 years ago this travesty took place. It would not happen today because of the SEC's dominance on the national stage
That dominace will not change if Texas wins and the 2004 SEC was not as good as the 2009 SEC
Perhaps you didn't notice but that same year Oklahoma went to the BCS CG, dispite a Big 12 team losing in the BCS CG the year before. Then after USC beat OU 55-19, a Big 12 team made it to the BCS CG again the following year. How do you explain that?
If you want to be Bama and Sabans bitch, move 2 states east and root for them.
ETA: Correct me if Im wrong, but didn't an SEC team win the BCS CG the year before Auburn got left out?
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:32 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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It's not like them losing to Texas will weaken their recruiting class noticeably.
and Bama losing to Texas won't hurt future SEC teams, just like OU losing 3 of 6 BCS CG has not hindered Texas.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:34 pm to AlejandroInHouston
We have a system in place. If AU does not like it they do not have to participate.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:36 pm to usc6158
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People are understating how important having the benefit of the doubt is in the BCS system. Look no further than USC in 2006 v USC in 2008. Basically identical scenarios with USC and Florida both with 1 loss, but entirely different outcomes in terms of the pecking order because of what Florida did in the title game against OSU in 06 and USC not getting back to 04/05 level
Exactly. I hate to sound like a snob but I don't think LSU fans who are choosing to root for Texas are very intelligent.
It's astounding to me how quickly people are forgetting how utterly vital public perception of your conference is.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:37 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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UF is an extra 100 miles away from Baton Rouge so that's why it's okay to root for them and not Bama?
Florida is not in our division chocise.
FWIW, I'd be rooting for Texas over them in this game to.
Actually I'd root for Texas over anyone besides LSU in this game. I root for who ever plays Alabama, unless Bama winning directly helps LSU (ie they beat Auburn, we win the West).
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
Your logic is flawed then. You basically are ceding that you would root for Kentucky in the MNC game. Or Tennesee. Or Georgia.
But NOT Alabama.
That makes no sense. If you truly love LSU and care about us 1st than you would root for what is best for LSU 100% of the time... not just when it's convenient for you and doesn't interfere with your jealousies and insecurities.
I genuinely think people rooting for Texas just have Alabama penis envy. It's similar to why myself and other Saints fans hate the Cowboys. We'll never have their mystique or their history or their big market - so we hate them and revel in their recent suffering.
But NOT Alabama.
That makes no sense. If you truly love LSU and care about us 1st than you would root for what is best for LSU 100% of the time... not just when it's convenient for you and doesn't interfere with your jealousies and insecurities.
I genuinely think people rooting for Texas just have Alabama penis envy. It's similar to why myself and other Saints fans hate the Cowboys. We'll never have their mystique or their history or their big market - so we hate them and revel in their recent suffering.
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:44 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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Look no further than USC in 2006 v USC in 2008. Basically identical scenarios with USC and Florida both with 1 loss, but entirely different outcomes in terms of the pecking order because of what Florida did in the title game against OSU in 06 and USC not getting back to 04/05 level
There are 2 problems with this theory. 1 Florida recieved the benefit of the doubt because of what Florida did. Everyone outside of the SEC says Florida beat Ohio State, not the SEC beat Ohio State. 2. in 2008 USC's SOS was horrendous. This was in part because the Pac 10 in 2008 was getting destroyed OOC. Note computer rankings look only at the season in question, not what happened 2 years earlier. The computers had Fla and OU over USC based on 2008, not because of what Florida did in 2006.
not really that hard to understand. I'm still waiting for you guys to explain why Texas keeps making the BCS CG in years after OU loses. After taht you can explain why it was so determental to the SEC that Alabama got arse raped by Utah last year?
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:45 pm to AlejandroInHouston
I think its hilarious that the majority of Aubies I talk to would rather Alabama win the NC game than texas, while LSU fans cant quit whining about nearly having a 10 win season and are changing favorite team icons to uterus of texas as fast as they can. What a bunch of whining, sniveling, thunderpusses. Conference pride doesnt mean anything to the majority of you douchers, even if it could determine if LSU gets to play in the NC game some day.
LSwho has 2 national titles in recent history and tiga fans act like that gives them the right to turn up thier nose at other teams in the conference...give me a break. You have a-hole fans just like every other team in the conference. Bama isnt the only team to host a bevy of ignorant morons in its fan base...I have met quite a few wearing purple and gold who i assume never watched a game until LSU won a national title. That of course isnt enough to keep me from rooting for LSU during OOC games. I guess thats too much to ask for the spoiled LSU fans that have cropped up since 03.
LSwho has 2 national titles in recent history and tiga fans act like that gives them the right to turn up thier nose at other teams in the conference...give me a break. You have a-hole fans just like every other team in the conference. Bama isnt the only team to host a bevy of ignorant morons in its fan base...I have met quite a few wearing purple and gold who i assume never watched a game until LSU won a national title. That of course isnt enough to keep me from rooting for LSU during OOC games. I guess thats too much to ask for the spoiled LSU fans that have cropped up since 03.
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:46 pm to H-Town Tiger
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After taht you can explain why it was so determental to the SEC that Alabama got arse raped by Utah last year?
That loss was rendered irrelevant by UF winning the 3rd consecutive MNC for the SEC.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:46 pm to DrunkTigerBaiter
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why would you want our old coach to do better with our rival, thats like watching your worst enemy screw your ex girlfriend and liking it.
I wish everyone on this rant could look at it the way you and I do
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:49 pm to magicman0001
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i feel obligated to ALWAYS root for the SEC teams whether its OOC games OR Bowl Games.
This is what those Nazi in Birmingham want you to do. Group think makes everyone a winner-
frick that. I don't like "everyone wins" in youth sports and I certainly don't like it in the SEC. Anyone who thinks the Gumps winning keeps the SEC relevant is drinking too much kool-aid. Plus I hate that stupid SEC chant.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:50 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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Your logic is flawed then. You basically are ceding that you would root for Kentucky in the MNC game. Or Tennesee. Or Georgia
depens on who they were playing and how i picked the game in my bowl pool. I'd root for Texas over anyone but LSU in the BCS CG. Though again all the teams you mentioned are in the East and not teams we have to play every year and hence not really a threat to us.
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If you truly love LSU and care about us 1st than you would root for what is best for LSU 100% of the time
I do and the only thing that's good for LSU this year is LSU winning the Cap 1 bowl. The BCS CG has at best no impact and at worst it helps Alabama and hurt us.
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